Quoting Rowland Penny via Dng (dng@???):

> Because, if the mails were bouncing, someone would get the bounce
> reports and tell me. I get bounce reports for the samba and
> samba-technical mailing lists (I am one of the moderators), so I know
> what they look like.

Please, let's work through the scenario. You as rpenny@???
subscribe to dng@???. Hypothetically for purposes of
discussion, for some reason the samba.org SMTP host occasionally
does either SMTP error code 45x tempfail or 45x hardfail of subscriber
copies of a Dng post addressed to you. Any SMTP Non-Delivery Report
(NDR) or Delivery Status Notification (DSN) notice would be generated
not at samba.org but rather at lists.dyne.org, right?

Moreover, if for some reason a report were generated at samba.org about
the SMTP refusal, logically it would go to the samba.org sysadmins, not
to Samba 'list moderators' (or listadmins), because the latter have
responsibility for Samba's mailing lists, not Dyne.org's.

That's the model I've been used to, so unless I'm missing something very
different about your situation, the right people to check logs would be
the ones I described.

> Are you aware that I am one of the Samba team members ?

I am, indeed, and I sincerely thank you and the rest of your and the
rest of the Samba Team's work. Please say a cheery 'Hullo' to my
friends and erstwhile co-workers Andrew Tridgell, Jeremy Allison, and
Rusty Russell.



> Yes, I am totally aware of the above, but, as there is absolutely no
> reason for the dng mails sent to me being bounced and that others have
> had this happen to them, I feel the problem could be at the dng end.

If so, that's good news, because once appropriate people look at the
appropriate log files, it should be possible to figure out why (it is
claimed) some Dng mail addressed to you from lists.dyne.org keeps
getting either tempfailed or hardfailed. I would encourage you to
concentrate on contacting one or both sysadmin teams.

If I had shell with root privilege on either the samba.org or
lists.dyne.org host, I'd have been glad to do that work, but sadly I'm
an outsider to both projects.

I apologoise for requiring _three_ responses last night to cover this
matter, but it was quite late in my time zone, and I was rather tired.