Historically the community has always responded to things that are minimal and simple, and not so much to things that are bloated or windowsy, or similar. Imho, a reason why a new user might look to Devuan could be because it's less like windows than some of the others, and the community supports the goal of simpler living with your OS.

Actually, I think these problems should be solved just not directly in Devuan. If there comes a time when someone creates a spin specifically for new users, that would solve all those problems.

Cheers,

chillfan

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On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 11:34 PM, Michael <mb_devuan-mailinglist@???> wrote:

> Hi golinux and everyone else,
>

> Okay, I’m breaking this topic off from the ‘Added desktop-live to the install
> guides’ as it seems we have a much higher, philosophical level decision to
> make before we can continue with editing the Devuan Install Guide. Which is:
>

> == What should an Install Guide accomplish?
>

> #
>

> ==
>

> My take is that an Install Guide is a complete set of instructions that a
> person can follow to fully accomplish the task. There are no ambiguities
> presented to the user, as it is literally do step a), do step b), do step
> c) ...
>

> Each step should be fully explained and if there is more than one primary
> method of doing any of the steps, then each method is explained. In this
> case my take is that both Nix and Windows instructions should be available.
>

> # Minor points
>

> ===============
>

> = I am fully against against repeating any information on a website. As doing
> so almost always leads to discrepancies between the difference sources. If
> the Devuan site is using a CMS of some sort, then a single source should be
> able to be created and block inclusions can be then placed anywhere else on
> the site as needed. [1]
>

> = I do think that anything a user needs to know to make an intelligent
> decision should be either on the page or directly linked to. If linked to,
> then clicking the link should not close or overwrite the Install Guide page.
>

> = For an Install Guide I’m against ‘Minimalism.’ My feeling is that not
> giving total, and literally an over abundance of information, not only
> directly inhibits and stops people from doing the Install, but also creates
> vast negative word of mouth from those who attempt the Install but can’t
> complete it because they aren’t given enough information to physically be
> able to follow it.
>

> = If golinux agrees to ‘an over abundance of information approach,’ I have no
> issue re-writing the whole guide. (As you may have noticed I’m a bit gabby.)
> I will need someone with a Windows box to QC those instructions.
>

> #
>

> ==
>

> Okay, that’s my fairly opinionated opinion. I think ultimately this is
> golinux’s decision, but please everyone else jump in with yea’s, nay’s, and
> what you think the answer to the question is ;) Also, please don’t feel shy
> about bringing up what you think the ramifications might be for the different
> options/opinions/methods. I bring this last point up, as I have a gut feel
> that if we come to agreement on the ramifications, then we’ll have
> our ‘decision’ per say made for us.
>

> Best Regards All and Happy New Year!,
> Michael
>

> PS: golinux, my full apologies if I’ve stepped on your toes :( and/or
> exceeded what you’re willing to take under discussion.
>

> [1] I host and manage Drupal (CMS) websites, this generally takes 10 minutes
> to setup. I can discuss this offline with whoever as desired.
>

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