On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:50:45 -0500, Steve wrote in message
<20181120115045.311c55c7@???>:

> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 09:36:18 +0100
> KatolaZ <katolaz@???> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 01:08:41AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
>

> > > Instead, any package diff from Debian should be considered a
> > > problem to be fixed.  Any patches, instead of removing systemd
> > > support, should make things work both with systemd and modular
> > > init/rc systems.  And be upstreamed as soon as possible.    

> >
> > This is not gonna happen, given for instance the way our presence in
> > debian-devel has been "cheered up" (with aggressive posts and
> > personal insults). The truth is that too many people have a problem
> > with other people not liking systemd and not wanting it around. So
> > I am sorry but Devuan will stay around.
>
> If anybody should go away, it's Debian. Their behavior in 2014
> indicates they're not trustworthy. I think Devuan is the true
> successor state to Debian.

..is why I proposed mirroring Debian's non-systemd hurd-i386,
kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, x32 etc so people looking for
a one stop shop distro can get used to the idea "of mirroring
and forking only when we have to", and help us by hollering
whenever they find weird stuff that makes no sense without
systemd things being snuck in, such as weird merges.


..reflecting on the naming of Devuan Beowulf, can we somehow
manage to use it as _viable_ bait to win over the good folks
at https://www.debian.org/ports/beowulf/ ?


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