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Autor: etech3
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A: dng
Asunto: Re: [DNG] English grammar.
On 11/18/2018 11:11 AM, Rowland Penny wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 10:11:50 -0500
> Hendrik Boom <hendrik@???> wrote:
>
>> Changed the subject to a more appropriate one.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 01:52:01PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>>> On 18/11/18 at 13:36, Rowland Penny wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:24:51 +0100
>>>> Alessandro Selli <alessandroselli@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18/11/18 at 10:46, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The most important aspect here is: "has been". Its in the past
>>>>>> already and it does not determine the future.
>>>>>    Maybe not.  If my English Grammar is still worth the schoolbook
>>>>> paper it was printed on, "has been" is the Present Continuous
>>>>> Tense, that is used "to express the idea that something is
>>>>> happening now, at this very moment. It can also be used to show
>>>>> that something is not happening now."

>>>>>
>>>>>    So, the main use is for "something is happening now",
>>>>> sometimes for "something [that] is not happening now."

>>>>>
>>>> Nope, your schoolbook paper wasn't worth the paper it was written
>>>> on ;-)
>>>
>>>    All right, I checked it and indeed I remembered wrong.  The
>>> Present Continuous Tense if formed by the Present Tense of "be"
>>> followed by a Present Participle.  In this case we have the Present
>>> Tense of "have" ("has") followed by the Present Participle of
>>> "be" ("been").  Which means that KatolaZ used the Present Perfect
>>> tense, which is used to express "an action happened at an
>>> unspecified time before now."
>> What we have here is the passive perfect tense

>>
>>>> This is not gonna happen, given for instance the way our presence
>>>> in debian-devel has been "cheered up" (with aggressive posts and
>>>> personal
>>> The most important aspect here is: "has been". Its in the past
>>> already and it does not determine the
>>> future.
>> 'has been' is a perfect tense for 'to be'. Combined with the *past*
>> participle of "cheered", it makes a passive verb.
>>
> No it isn't, 'has been' means in the past 'to be' means in the the
> future, as in 'has been seen' and 'to be seen'.
>
> But what do I know, I have only been speaking English for the last 62
> years, ever since I moved on from 'goo-goo-gaga' baby talk ;-)
>
> Rowland
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