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Autor: Alessandro Selli
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A: dng
Assumpte: Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism
  I was wondering how long before you started again with your misplaced
tirades against Puri.sm.

Suffices to sat to demolish whatever you wrote that we're talking of a
*smartphone*, not laptops!

I.e. something that has no Intel chips inside.  Are there
OpenPOWER-powered smartphones?

  Would you ever do some reading before, or better yet instead, of
barking at everything that moves and is not from IBM?


Alessandro



On 31/10/18 at 23:59, Taiidan@??? wrote:

> Everyone here knows purism stuff is blobbed right?
>
> Their laptops have coreboot but that isn't open source firmware - the
> hardware init process on their laptops is entirely blobbed (done via
> FSP) and they are are being very dishonest for not stating this up front
> and instead claiming to have "open source firmware"
>
> They also claim their laptops have a disabled ME which is impossible -
> even with HAP on skylake the kernel and bup hw init still run.
>
> Trying to have freedom on modern x86 systems is being naive and beating
> a dead horse at best - an incredibly dishonest scam at worst.
>
> I expect their mobile devices to be just as non-free and dishonest when
> it comes to their touted security (usb isn't modem isolation!)
> considering their track record for ignoring the community and not caring
> what anyone thinks.
>
> Alternatives:
> The g505s is an open cpu/ram init owner controlled ME/PSP free
> alternative to the faux-libre laptops which with the best compatible
> circa 2013 quad core A10 is nearly equivilant now that intel's cpu
> performance is ruined via the spectre/meltdown fixes.
>
> If you want an owner controlled performance system either you buy old
> x86 or you buy OpenPOWER - there is nothing else.
>
> x86 will never be free whereas with OpenPOWER you get an OEM[1] that
> actually listens and implements suggestions provides help with small
> system integrators like raptor (they asked for and received various
> things from ibm needed to have an entirely libre firmware including the
> hardware init process for their systems)
>
> [1]OP is one of the rare gems from IBM...it blows my mind the future of
> computing freedom is from them...I guess they did it because better
> performance alone isn't reason to switch to POWER there needed to be
> more compelling reasons and now they have one.
>
> Here's to hoping for an OpenPOWER laptop.
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