On Wednesday 17 October 2018 at 17:37:14, Bruce Ferrell wrote:

> On 10/17/18 8:24 AM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> > On 17-10-18 15:14, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> >> Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
> >> of scripts? That would bypass the entire problem. Those who want to
> >> stick to scripts can always direct sysvinit to use scripts instead. An
> >> edit/patch would aim to make sysvinit recognise unit files and run
> >> scripts when instructed to.
> >>
> >> Before I get a barrage of smart-ass replies like 'You do not
> >> understand', yes, I know, it is EASIER SAID than DONE. Everything
> >> technical is like that, unfortunately.
> >
> > This has been discussed before on this list. My proposal was to replace
> > libsystemd0 with a devuan specific version (see Re: [DNG] Provides:
> > libsystemd0 (was Re: systemd and ssh-server)) with a modular api system.
> > Which also could be extended to a version that uses the systemd unit
> > file.
> >
> > But it is not simple and i do not have the programmer skills to build it
> > my self.
>
> Actually, it's NOT that difficult...
>
> On one distro I've seen, the sysv init scripts sources a system shell
> function file.

Care to name that distro?

> One of those functions would test for the presence of elements of
> systemd. If found, use systemd and it's unit files. Else use "normal"
> init mechanisms.
>
> I used to patch the init scripts to make systemd "vanish" for certain
> things... Then the distro devs pulled that ability from that system
> shell function file.

How long ago?

> "They" REALLY want to force the use of systemd.
>
> I REALLY don't want to use systemd. I've seen too many problems since
> it's introduction.
>
> Now that I've completed my sermon to the choir... Shall I speak on the
> patch to Apache they felt necessary that broke serving wordpress?

Not unless it's relevant / important to Devuan :)


Antony.

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