On 15.10.2018 14:42, g4sra wrote:

welcome.

> The issue as I see it is that Linux is becoming commercialised by the
> likes of Red Hat and other big players (Oracle, IBM, etc, etc).

ACK. That's IMHO one of the major reasons for the massive quality
degradation in recent years ... just look at the desktop crap ... :o

> As an experienced systems administrator with strong gut instincts I can
> 'bolt stuff together' that 'just works' 24x7x365. Unfortunately, I am
> only a mediocre programmer, but despite that is my intention to
> contribute to Devuan what little I can and try to keep my mouth shut
> about the stuff I don't know.

Looks like you're perfect guy for things like testing, infrastructure,
valuable input on how to improve operating, etc, etc.

> What I am looking for from the Devuan community now is an open
> discussion about the alternative init systems, what is available (I have
> googled and read a little), when to use which, and a very good reason
> why I shouldn't just boot straight into bash and go it alone with a bit
> of python ;)

I personally, got tired of inventing yet another init system - did that
over 20 years ago (actually, some things not so different from *early*
systemd - before they became totally nuts).

The problem, IMHO, isn't so much creating an init system, but
maintaining the corresponding config/scripts for all the packages.

One thing we perhaps could do is inventing a small declarative meta-
config language for certain common service types / usecases, so we
could automatically generate a large portion of the scripts/config
automatically for many init systems.


--mtx