On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 10:56:26AM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:55:29PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 03:24:44 +0000
> > alecfeldman@??? wrote:
> >
> >
> > > 1. Split the runit package into separate packages with alternate
> > > stage files.
> > >
> > > 2. Provide a configuration file for how runit should act. For
> > > instance, if openrc or sysvinit is installed, runit can depend
> > > on /etc/init.d and /etc/rc*.d scripts for booting.
> >
> > On a related note, I think the best way of acquiring runit run files is
> > to install Void Linux on a VM, install all the various daemons, and
> > then view the run files in /etc/sv/$daemonname/run.
> >
> > Void has had enough time supporting runit that most of their run files
> > work great. The exceptions usually assume device names that shouldn't
> > be assumed.
> >
> > Devuan could thus acquire a whole bunch of run scripts and not have to
> > beg the upstreams to do it.
> >
>
> The main problem remains how to distribute those scripts, without
> having to fork all the packages that provide a runit script and don't
> have one in the corresponding Debian package. Any concrete proposal is
> welcome there (but I know that most of the simple ones won't work,
> since people willing to use runit want their preferred service to work
> ootb and already have runit scripts, and only when they install that
> specific server...).
>
> Also, we are not just talking of supporting either openrc or runit,
> but to add support for runit *on top* of sysvinit and openrc.

And while we're at it, we want not to support systemd.
But living with inert systemd scripts is at least tolerable.
Ideally there should be some systematic solution for all of this,
leaving the choices to the sysadmin, but I don't see it as easy.

-- hendrik

>
> We should definitely find a way through, but I can't see the optimal
> one at the moment :\
>
> My2Cents
>
> KatolaZ
>

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