On Wed, 01 Aug 2018, golinux@??? wrote:

> I understand that. I didn't say not to discuss the Slackware
> situation. It's just that Devuan communications, except for the
> forum, have gone to less than a trickle. Would be nice to have some
> energy going into Beowulf etc. Yes, I know many are on holiday in
> August but not that much has happened since the stable release.
> Hoping things might pickup a bit.

I believe a community dynamic is healthy when solidarity replaces
competition: in our case Slackware and Gentoo are not competitors, but
venerable projects that can share valuable experience and also
upstream tools with Devuan, while they have a larger user base and
common goals and ethics. If any of such projects raises an emergency
flag, we are called to exercise solidarity even beyond the
understandable latency of vacation periods. That's what I felt like
doing, while reading online sporadically once per week.

About beowulf the first step to help is start running it, only this
way we can find problems. Or in your case start thinking of a design
approach for it :^) I think you are running ahead with that already.
I run Beowulf since the ASCII stable release, other devs as well. The
only problem I have is with the ZFS modules compiled with DKMS,
haven't had time to investigate that, but suspect people more expert
than me on ZFS internals may have already proposed solutions on the
devuan-dev list.

All the above considered, I think you are right to call all of us to
stick to our mission and nurture our project. Sometimes I wonder how
solidarity is perceived by big-fish eat-it-all distros like Debian or
Ubuntu: what if they would take a less solipsistic approach, recognise
young efforts like Devuan as a distro that saved a good portion of
their user base and nurture it by means of infrastructure and
donations? The world of FOSS would be a better place. Rather than
complain about their competing behavior, I believe we are called to
show how to improve our communities. Our solidarity to Slackware is a
call to everyone, to care about each other and to be excellent to each
other.



ciao!

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