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Autore: Olaf Meeuwissen
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To: devuan developers internal list
Oggetto: Re: [devuan-dev] Notes - Devuan meet Nov. 22 2017
Hi,

Patrick Meade writes:

> On 11/28/2017 04:36 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>> Patrick Meade writes:
>>>     * Devuan initscripts should be marked important
>>>       * (blinkdog) Evilham, Looks like a job for the PkgShaper bot?

>>
>> I analyzed the situation on the DNG list[1]. If that analysis and my
>> suggestion make sense, is there really any hard need to make bump the
>> Priority to important?
>>
>> [1]: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20171122.105044.7670a266.en.html
>>
>> Apart from the /etc/rc.local file, the initscripts package includes a
>> number of, eh, init scripts that other /sbin/init systems may want to
>> replace with their own for one reason or another. In that case, they
>> should have the option of it not getting installed willy-nilly.
>>
>> Now, if the absence of initscripts' init scripts prevents booting to
>> the default (multi-user) level, then, yes, by all means, mark it
>> important (or higher).
>
> Hi Olaf,
>
> Thank you for your analysis, it is insightful. If I remember correctly,
> the consensus at the meeting was as you suggest, that modifying the
> priority wasn't necessary at this time.


Thanks.

> The discussion was then about the PkgShaper bot and if this was a good
> use-case (changing a priority) for handling packages like initscripts
> that might need it in the future. PkgShaper is a bot that Evilham is
> working on to do simple automated repacks of upstream packages that need it.
>
> For example, if upstream strips out an init script, the PkgShaper could
> automatically create a Devuan version that includes the script, and put
> the package in experimental. A developer could then check the bot's work
> and promote the package to testing.


That assumes that the developer does a *thorough* check of the real
need.

> As of now, we don't expect to change the priority of initscripts. We're
> just getting ready in case we should ever need to do it for any package.


As for Priority: changes, if they go from Required or Important to
something less, that is probably a Good Thing (from a minimal system
builder POV, think chroots, VM and Docker images) in most situations
as long as the other packages, like init in this case, have their
dependencies set correctly.

> Thanks! :-)


You're welcome.
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