Hi all,

A couple days ago I volunteered to be one of a two person team to bring
a good, high quality runit package to DeVUan. The package would be
capable of using runit as a simple process supervisor, or assuming all
init responsibilities. I would consult the creator of runit so our
package would reflect his vision of how runit is supposed to work.

And now here comes a troll I /dev/nulled in 2015, apparently suggesting
I fix DeBIan bug number such and such to achieve a DeVUan runit. Ummmm,
no.

Once upon a time I used Debian, and of course installed their
daemontools and runit packages. I'll leave space here for the troll to
tell others (I don't see his messages, only his vestiges in others'
quoted context) that I used the wrong package names...




The Debian runit and daemontools didn't work without a lot of initial
debugging. There was no Debian documentation to match the (head
scratchingly arbitrary) Debian changes. I gave up in disgust and
installed the real stuff, from the real tarball, issued by the real
developers.

That wasn't my first rodeo with Debian. I'm the originator and 2 year
maintainer of the VimOutliner project. The Debian package substituted a
double backslash \\ for the double comma ,, command prefix. When I said
that the double comma was selected for speed purposes and that double
backslash was a huge slowdown, the Debian maintainer gave me this song
and dance about customary defaults in Debian and Vim. Meanwhile, as
"upstreams", we were forever asked to debug Debian installations
because they didn't work. After a few attempts, we just told them
Uninstall your Debian VimOutliner and install from our tarball. That
was the quickest fix.

I have no interest in half-way fixing Debian's broken packages, but
I'll be glad to help create an excellent DeVUan package that respects
what the software's author was trying to accomplish (but without any
new directories off the root). If the new Devuan runit package work out
as well as I think it will, I can help do the same thing for s6, and I
talk to s6's developer on a regular basis and I think he'd be helpful.

SteveT

Steve Litt
October 2017 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century
http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21