On 21/09/17 21:33, Rowland Penny wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:18:41 +0100
> Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt@???> wrote:
>
>> Rowland Penny writes:
>>> This is all down to the sysadmins decision and I thought one of the
>>> main ideas behind Devuan is that nothing is forced on the sysadmin.
>> Systemd isn't forced on you. LOTS of other things are, starting with
>> the choice of .deb as package format.
>>
>> Arnt
> Please stop being obtuse, You know very well what I meant. Devuan has
> to make some decision for you, but you accept them by accepting
> Devuan. What Devuan doesn't force on you are things like, what GUI to
> use (or force you to use one), sudo, su or anything like this. More
> importantly, it doesn't force systemd on you.
>
> In the post I replied to, Dave was trying to force everybody to NOT use
> su, this, in my opinion, is a denial of freedom of choice.
>
> Rowland
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The bottle of wine isn't quite finished yet, but I am not trying to
force anyone to stop using 'su'.

It IS a really bad idea though, rummage the interweb, somewhere in there
is a really good write up on why su is bad and sudo is good.

And doas is even better.

DaveT