> On Sep 20, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Alessandro Selli <alessandroselli@???> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 at 11:19:51 -0400
> John Franklin <franklin@???> wrote:
>
>
>> Your premise that “Gnome depends on systemd” is false. The current
>> *packages* may depend on systemd, but I’ll bet they can be patched and
>> rebuilt without systemd.
>>
>> Give it a try. Please build the gnome packages from scratch and report back
>> with where compilation fails. Better yet, file bugs with patches to create
>> a set of Gnome packages that don’t depend on systemd.
>
> If having Gnome work without systemd entails patching it's sources and
> recompiling the whole bunch of packages, then you just proved Gnome does
> indeed depend on systemd, not just on the package level, but on the code
> level.

The phase “depends on systemd” is being used in two extreme contexts here. The first is a technical context, where “apt-get install <package>” fails because of a dependency, and may be trivially fixed with different build options. The second is “fundamentally and irreparably depends on systemd.”

For example, Network Manager can be built by removing two systemd dependencies from the debian/control file. It clearly falls in the first category.

[Citation required.] What else “depends on systemd”?

jf
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