On 19.09.17 15:56, J. Fahrner wrote:
> I'm wondering why people cry when they don't get Gnome and why they try to
> enforce Devuan developers to offer Gnome. Devuans goal is to offer a Linux
> system without systemd.

Errr, Devuan's reason for _existing_ is to eschew systemd. Absolutely
nothing can be allowed to stand in the way of delivering that.

> And that's not possible for Gnome, because Gnome depends on systemd.
> If you want Gnome you have to live with systemd. It's your choice.

If that is true, then there is no Gnome in Devuan, and never can be?

> If you want a Windows GUI you have to use Windows. But don't cry.

While using LXDE in preference, I can't really tell any difference when
using Gnome. Ditching the latter will not be noticed at the user level.

I've downloaded devuan_jessie_1.0.0_i386_CD.iso, but not installed it
yet. That is Gnome-free, and thus systemd-free?

Erik