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Autor: zap
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To: dng
Betreff: Re: [DNG] Another problem with systemd and I will switch to devuan
my bad, I responded to wrong message and it took off before I could stop
it...


sorry about that.


On 09/17/2017 09:08 PM, zap wrote:
> On 09/17/2017 04:05 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 05:27:19 +0100
>> KatolaZ <katolaz@???> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 04:07:01PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:49:35PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>>>>> Just a guess: A rolling-release Devuan wouldn't be especially
>>>>> popular.
>>>> Isn't Devuan testing a rolling release?
>>>>
>>> No, it's not, and luckily so.
>>>
>>> There are already sans-systemd distro using a rolling-release scheme,
>>> and I can't see a single reason why Devuan should even consider going
>>> in that direction.
>> I agree 100%.
> I have revised my thoughts slightly, maybe everything but stable
> whenever I decide to...
>>> If they are not enough, then anybody is free to
>>> start working on a new one.
>>>
>>> One of the characteristic strengths of Devuan is the fact that you
>>> know a stable branch won't fail you,
>> I agree wholeheartedly.
> Yep I am not denying that.
>>> and that a testing branch will be
>>> much more stable than most of the "stable" distros out there. You
>>> simply can't guarantee this level of stability with a rolling
>>> release.
>> This is true, as I've found in Void Linux, which is the most reliable
>> rolling release I've ever tried. Don't get me started on Arch and
>> Manjaro.
> Arch is the worst sadly...
> I bet it would work better with a debian based stability though...
> merely because installing arch is where I seem to find my problems...
>>> In many typical Devuan use cases (mission-critical services,
>>> for instance), you absolutely don't want the latest "upgrade" of a
>>> package, because you can't afford any random upgrade to break your
>>> system, even temporarily.
>> Yes. Why is that so hard to understand?
>>
>> There are some cases when it's easiest and perhaps best to trust that
>> the latest update will always work. But in other situations, you
>> prioritize stability, and that's the space Devuan fills.
> I haven't replied for a while. but yeah your probably right.  Devuan is
> better as is. I would definitely though that being said, hope to make a
> not pure rolling release, but one with a stability in the middle of
> stable and testing, and then one for unstable and experimental...
> But I will most likely stop replying for a while since this thread seems
> to get clogged.
>
>> SteveT
>>
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