We should have a Discord server instead of just IRC imho. It also does
voice and video for anyone so inclined.

I'll try to contribute once some time frees up. I would hate for the
project to get stale. Devuan has been a pleasure to use.

-Alex

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:41 PM, John Franklin <franklin@???> wrote:

>
> > On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:11 AM, KatolaZ <katolaz@???> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 12:24:49AM +0200, Ivan J. wrote:
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> >>>
> >>> So, how can we get through this and keep it from happening again?
> >>> If the project is to move forward, the root issues leading to the
> >>> current state of affairs have to be resolved.
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> There's not much to it besides letting people with actual time do
> >> things...
> >>
> >
> > Totally agree with parazyd. And the latest discussions we have had are
> > all about that: help people to help Devuan.
> >
> > On the recent apparent reduction in Devuan's activity, let's please
> > try to leave the drama aside. Nobody said much when people were
> > working almost exclusively on Devuan for several weeks to push Jessie
> > out (that was not normal either). Having alternating activity bursts
> > is in the very nature of voluntary projects, like it or not.
>
> This was my impression, too. Less a “crisis of governance” and more a
> slump in momentum, possibly compounded by the European summer vacation.
>
> I’d like to support Devuan any way I can, but my time for another project
> is limited. It is easiest when I can do it as part of another project.
> For example, seeding the torrent on tux.org, setting up a repo mirror
> (when it is ready to be mirrored), or filing bug reports when I run into
> something. Projects I am “actively” involved in get a day or two out of
> me, maybe a long weekend, and then nothing for weeks at a time. More
> often, I file bugs and patches when they affect a client.
>
> Where I can, I’ll use Devuan as the underlying OS, and I’ll promote it as
> a viable alternative, but I need confidence that security updates will make
> it to the repositories in a timely manner. That will require Devuan to
> have a robust CI pipeline, and I know that build-out is in progress. I
> mention it here to provide a little p̵r̵e̵s̵s̵u̵r̵e̵ encouragement to keep
> up the good work.
>
> jf
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