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Alte Treads: Re: [DNG] Purism Librem and disabling Intel ME: it can be done [ Re: TALOS 2 - The Libre Owner Controlled POWER9 Workstation/Server ]
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This thread has now 86 posts, and I still don't see a solid contribution
to Devuan project.
This makes very heavy to be subscribed in a mailing list for people like
me, that are looking a good alternative to Debian/Systemd, not only in
software but also in community.


El 07/09/17 a les 13:43, Didier Kryn ha escrit:
> Le 07/09/2017 à 10:48, Taiidan@??? a écrit :
>> On 09/07/2017 04:30 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 at 17:12:27 -0400
>>> zap <calmstorm@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed! Talos is at least *LIBRE!*
>>>    No, it ain't:
>>> https://blog.rapid7.com/2013/07/02/a-penetration-testers-guide-to-ipmi/

>>>
>>>     "BMCs and the IPMI Protocol

>>>
>>>     Baseboard Management Controllers (BMCs) are a type of embedded
>>>     computer used to provide out-of-band monitoring for desktops and
>>>     servers. These products are sold under many brand names,
>>> including HP
>>>     iLO, Dell DRAC, Sun ILOM, Fujitsu iRMC, *IBM IMM*, and Supermicro
>>>     IPMI."

>>>
>>>    IBM stuff is plagued by embedded controlware, too. 

>
>
>     Alessandro, I've read that thread with great interest and I think
> you forgot a "detail": BMC software is open on IBM Power, meaning you
> can replace it by your own, or patch the existant if you prefer.

>
>     Wether there is yet another backdoor is only a supposition and it
> applies to everything you can buy, not specifically IBM. At least, if
> there is one, it is known only to the manufacturer and the 3-letter
> agencies, not to the general hacker. And I'm optimistic because of the
> following law: the time of life of a secret decreases when the number of
> persons who share it increases, and in this case there must be a number
> of engineers.

>
>                 Didier

>
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