On 09/07/2017 04:30 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 at 17:12:27 -0400
> zap <calmstorm@???> wrote:
>
>> Agreed! Talos is at least *LIBRE!*
> No, it ain't:
> https://blog.rapid7.com/2013/07/02/a-penetration-testers-guide-to-ipmi/
>
> "BMCs and the IPMI Protocol
>
> Baseboard Management Controllers (BMCs) are a type of embedded
> computer used to provide out-of-band monitoring for desktops and
> servers. These products are sold under many brand names, including HP
> iLO, Dell DRAC, Sun ILOM, Fujitsu iRMC, *IBM IMM*, and Supermicro
> IPMI."
>
> IBM stuff is plagued by embedded controlware, too.
Uhh no it is
There is a major difference between ME/PSP and IBM's POWER-BMC - One is
open source and owner controlled the other two aren't.
On 09/06/2017 07:18 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 06/09/2017 at 19:15, Taiidan@??? wrote:
>> On 09/06/2017 06:36 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>>
>>> The steep price.
>>>
>> Uhh the laptops you guys are selling now cost just as much as TALOS...
> "you" whom? I am not a seller.
You are constantly defending them and snubbing your nose at superior
products so it is obvious you work for purism.
>> only they aren't owner controlled.
> That you know of. I remember IBM has always been one of the top USA
> military's purveyors:
>
> http://newspaperarchives.vassar.edu/cgi-bin/vassar?a=d&d=miscellany19700206-01.2.13
>
> "In fiscal 1909, IBM contracted for $257,000,000.00 worth of its
> products with the United States Department of Defense. 4 The importance
> of IBM's military role has grown with the computerization of the
> American war effort in Vietnam." (1909 is probably an OCR error, there
> are many in the piece; it could be 1969).
>
> I very doubt material from IBM can be thought of being
> freedom-and-liberty loving and exempt from any governmental-friendly
> "features". They just don't put it in their public spec sheets like
> Intel does.
Ahh oh well shucks looks like I had better buy a purism right? at least
then I know for a fact that there is a hardware level backdoor and can
act accordingly!
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