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Auteur: Daniel Abrecht
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À: dng
Sujet: Re: [DNG] TALOS 2 - The Libre Owner Controlled POWER9 Workstation/Server
While all android phones technically use a linux kernel, they have
nothing else in common with a normal Linux system. Android has it's
own libc: bionic. It also has special IPC mechanisms enabled in the
linux kernel, and it uses gralloc instead of fbdev or DRM. I think
gralloc is the biggest problem with android phones, it's absolutely
useless for everything except for androids SurfaceFlinger and
canonicals Mir.

I Really hope the Librem 5 will get fbdev support, so I can see boot
messages on a framebuffer console, and optionally DRM support for
things like OpenGL and Vulkan.

On 2017-08-31 15:01, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> On 31-08-17 16:14, Narcis Garcia wrote:
>> El 31/08/17 a les 15:24, info at smallinnovations dot nl ha
>> escrit:
>>>
>>> As a owner of a BQ Aquaris E45 Ubuntu version i fully support
>>> this kind of free smartphone development. But i doubt of a
>>> linux smartphone will be functional comparable with Android or
>>> iOS within 3 to 4 years. They should use the efforts of
>>> Meego/Maemo development or work together wit Jolla. And trying
>>> to get support from one or more large smartphone makers. Until
>>> then when i have to replace my current BQ it will be a iPhone
>>> as one of the lesser evil.
>>>
>> All Androids run Linux.
>
> Sure as far as it the kernel concerns that is true. As soon as you
> want hardware support for a specific SOC you depend on the
> hardware manufacturer. Which are not interested in open source and
> you are already lucky if they even want to deliver a binary blob.