On 17/08/17 08:46, Joel Roth wrote:
> Dave Turner wrote:
>> I have boot from a debian 6 squeeze CD, anything later refuses to boot the
>> iMac. (Fedora has failed since fedora 13, Tinycore linux boots, Slackware
>> boots) Then I do a dist-upgrade to wheezy, that takes it straight to 7.11
>> which has the beginnings of systemd in it.
>>
>> I used aptitude to get rid of anything with systemd in the name, then I
>> deleted everything systemd from /lib/systemd and etc/systemd.
> There are units for starting services in /lib/systemd, but
> go unused unless you have systemd installed. At least one
> proof-of-concept init system, a wrapper for runit, aims at
> supporting the systemd service units.
>
> https://github.com/the-eater/shinit
>
> The config files in /etc/systemd are equally harmless.
> Probably any app that would look in /etc/systemd will be
> declared with a systemd dependency.
>
>> After a reboot
>> and purge I was down to 174 packages and a working but very minimal terminal
>> system. No sound no nothing, reminds me of playing Moonlander on a 300-baud
>> terminal into the mainframe all those years ago...
>>
>> Then I did the devuan-jessie dist-upgrade. That pulled in systemd-udevd so I
>> repeated what I did with wheezy - got rid of all of it! And broke it again!
>> The screen font stays enormous and the keyboard doesn't work so I can't
>> login.
>>
>> I suppose eudev is the next step once I have re-installed squeeze and
>> wheezy!
>>
>> DaveT
>>
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Thanks Joel, but I have my 'killing head' on. _ANYTHING_ on wheezy that
dares to mention systemd is gone. Still works.

Having a bottle of wine before I start the devuan-jessie install and the
systemd purge...

(hey, I need a clear head for this right?!)

DaveT