On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:25:27 -0400
Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@???> wrote:

> On 7/10/17 4:17 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
[snip]
> > We are the community. We need to act for ourselves.
> >
> >
> So far, that's not working all that well.
>
> Miles Fidelman

I'm not sure of that, Miles. The proponents of systemd have left a lot
of roads open to those who don't want to go along. I have a feeling
their strategic plan, in 8/2014, would have left us with no non-systemd
place to go using a Linux kernel. I think we all have made a difference.

Remember, we're fighting a huge and well funded opponent, possessing
the money to throw at programmers to keep the systemd mess running, as
well as money for publicity to counter common sense with neverending
bulldroppings. Seen in that context, what we've accomplished is a
miracle.

On another note, I'm so happy to see you here at DNG. I think your
consistent resistance to systemd back on Debian-User was part of what
caused the GR, and the kangaroo court handling of the GR was what
caused Debian to go supernova, spreading its former experts across all
sorts of distros and communities, enhancing the growth rate of Devuan.

SteveT

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