On 07/10/2017 03:23 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 01:53:09PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>> * On 2017 10 Jul 12:45 -0500, mdn wrote:
>>> Le 10/07/2017 19:29, zap a écrit :
>>>> I hope linus does something about it. I Really wish stallman would take
>>>> this seriously as a security risk.
>>> I too but RMS just care about licensing and a bit community relations
>>> atm (from what I can observe).
>> Unfortunately, that seems to be the case. Just because the code is GPL,
>> it seems fine by him.
> Sorry, but I really don't see what RMS should do here. He has focussed
> his entire life on the fundamental problem of making sure that
> software remains free, as in speech, and he has always (and
> rightfully, IMHO) avoided to intervene in any technical battle we have
> seen in the free-software world in the last 30 years, with the only
> hilarious exception of the vi-vs-emacs farse, epitomised in the
> fictious character of St. IGNUcious....
>
> From a technical point of view, systemd is free software, and trying
> to deny it is just stupid: you can fork the code from github, and have
> a go at it, modify it as you like, and redistribute it under the terms
> of the GNU LGPL 2.1 (yes, it's LGPL, not GPL). And concerning the
> legendary "forced adoption", the distros out there have *chosen*
> systemd, on the basis of a set of risible "technical aspects", but
> still, they have *chosen* it.
>
> So please, let's stop making fouls of ourselves. The problem is not
> systemd being or not being free software, rather its creators and
> sponsors being or not being well-intentioned towards the free software
> community. And this is not a problem of RMS, or Linus, or anybody else
> in particular, rather a problem of the community *as a whole*.
>
> Instead of asking what RMS can do against systemd, I would rather ask
> myself what I can do to avoid the systemd avalanche. Hoping that
> Superman will zoom over New York and save the world will not help
> saving the world.

That is a good point, it is like asking superman to save the world... it
just won't happen.

The community needs to reject it with every bit of strength it has.
> HND
>
> KatolaZ
>
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