Hi Svante and everybody!

(and zap, to whom you right as second person in the email I'm replying to. zap
might give useful advice, since he --later-- reported he successfully installed
OpenRC)

Svante, I'm taking your suggestion in the other thread some three days ago now,
or so.

I want to try OpenRC in my Devuan.

On 170617-14:32+0200, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Sat, 2017-06-17 at 05:59 -0400, zap wrote:
> > okay, then. The computer I have it on needs some work anyways.
>
> Hi zap,

I'm not sure about the below:

> Did you see my mail? I can send you the packages
> libfdisk1     2.29.2-1+devuan1
> util-linux    2.29.2-1+devuan1

I believe/hope all that is necessary is now in these repos that you wrote
below (but is it so?):

> until they are available if you are on i386. Then you can try openrc
> out, just add to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
> deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii  main
> deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan ascii-proposed  main

Except, in the other email, which is some two days ago, the second line is:
deb     http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii-proposed main
and so I added that newer line, by you. I added it to, ah, here's the entire:
# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-ascii.list
    # /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-ascii.list
    deb     http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii main
    deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii main
    deb     http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main
    deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main
    deb     http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main
    deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main
    # ascii-proposed, for openrc
    deb     http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii-proposed main
#

I hope that is fine.

> for the other packages.
> and
> apt-get update
> apt-get install ...
Install which packages?
Note at proofreading: probably those that you said to zap that you would send,
and which by now might be in the ascii-proposed repo.

From the other email of yours (let me paste it here, and it is this email on
the web --for other readers, since more non-experts like me read this ML--:
error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170706.105041.4bae37b7.en.html
):

(quote created manually)
> Regarding util-linux (2.29.2-1+devuan1) that version is needed in order
> to install sysvinit-utils (2.88dsf-59.9+devuan2) required by
> initscripts (2.88dsf-59.9+devuan2) and
> sysvinit-core (2.88dsf-59.9+devuan2) is needed if you want to try openrc out.
> In such case you need to enable ascii-proposed:
> deb http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii-proposed main

I'm not sure I understand completely. But in bottom I'll give what I have
installed...

Reading the thread of yours now (I've had other business in the meantime,
writing this for 1/2 of a day by now)...

> NOTE: If you are on real HW, please make sure you can recover in case
> something goes wrong!!!
I'll have to spend a few hours, as I'm rather meticulous, but I will be able to
recover in case of failure.

IOW: I'm not asking for any warranties. I liked using OpenRC in Gentoo very
much... It is generally great, and it does not depend on Dbus (or D-bus), a
program which I... don't like. It is touted by the sans-systemd camp in Gentoo
(still a majority, but I'm not following since maybe two months or so) for that
free-from-dbus feature.
>
> If you are on amd64 or some other arch I can send you the source files
> (or you can install and build them yourself by: adding
> deb-src http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan     ascii-proposed  main
Is it still necessary to be sent these source files you mentioned above?

Or should I see if this works?
> apt-get update
> apt-get source util-linux (Does not work for me. The Sources file is
> unfortunately empty)
> apt-get build-dep util-linux
> cd util-linux-2.29.2
> dpkg-buildpackage -b
> cd ../build-area
> dpkg -i util-linux_2.29.2-1+devuan1_<your_arch>.deb libfdisk1_2.29.2-
> 1+devuan1_<your_arch>.deb
>

I am going to try it even as I wait for a reply.

By the way, if I get into more difficulty understanding the procedure, I'll
open a topic in Dev1Galaxy (and just link to it), not to disturb this ML with
beginners' issues.

So here's what I have installed (I ran 'apt-get update' last night after having
added ascii-proposed to my sources):

# apt-cache policy util-linux
util-linux:
  Installed: 2.28-1+devuan3
  Candidate: 2.28-1+devuan3
  Version table:
 *** 2.28-1+devuan3 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii-proposed/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

# apt-cache policy initscripts
initscripts:
  Installed: 2.88dsf-59.3+devuan2
  Candidate: 2.88dsf-59.3+devuan2
  Version table:
     2.88dsf-59.9+devuan2 100
        100 http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii-propose
 *** 2.88dsf-59.3+devuan2 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main am
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii/main am
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

# apt-cache policy sysvinit-core
sysvinit-core:
  Installed: 2.88dsf-59.3+devuan2
  Candidate: 2.88dsf-59.3+devuan2
  Version table:
     2.88dsf-59.9+devuan2 100
        100 http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii-proposed/main amd64 Packages
 *** 2.88dsf-59.3+devuan2 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

# apt-cache policy sysvinit-utils
sysvinit-utils:
  Installed: 2.88dsf-59.3+devuan2
  Candidate: 2.88dsf-59.3+devuan2
  Version table:
     2.88dsf-59.9+devuan2 100
        100 http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii-proposed/main amd64 Packages
 *** 2.88dsf-59.3+devuan2 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

So, questioning is the way to understanding... I finally see a little clearer.
Only util-linux is not in the repo, and needs to be compiled...

And maybe also libfdisk1, let me see:

# apt-cache policy libfdisk1
libfdisk1:
  Installed: 2.28-1+devuan3
  Candidate: 2.28-1+devuan3
  Version table:
 *** 2.28-1+devuan3 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii-proposed/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Yeah, that one as well is not in the ascii-proposed repo!

Svante, pls. send me the packages if needed! Or zap, you can send them to me
either. As soon as I get them, I'll confirm with a short notice to this ML.

And then I go (quote already brought up way up in this email... btw sorry for
the mess, have already re-written it a few times, tired...):
> apt-get source util-linux (Does not work for me. The Sources file is
> unfortunately empty)
> apt-get build-dep util-linux
> cd util-linux-2.29.2
> dpkg-buildpackage -b
> cd ../build-area
> dpkg -i util-linux_2.29.2-1+devuan1_<your_arch>.deb libfdisk1_2.29.2-
> 1+devuan1_<your_arch>.deb

Regards!
--
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr