On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 15:33:57 -0700
Rick Moen <rick@???> wrote:

> Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandroselli@???):
>
>> You are still failing the easiest way to demonstrate your point:
>
> Non-sequitur argument noted in passing.

You failed once more. You must be enjoining it.

>> It's not just *my* experience, it's a long established fact. I also
>> provided with pointers to a relevant example...
>
> Sorry, that goes into /lib/firmware like other similiar BLOBs, not into
> the related b43 driver.

It goes there *after* is was extracted out of the proprietary driver. Why
don't you read what otehr people documented before posting?

>> That is, I write for the... third? fourth? time, due to the fact that you
>> cannot (legally) distribute files that mix proprietary code with GPL'ed
>> code,
>
> Which, as noted, is you changing the subject: At the point where I
> pointed out your mistake, you were talking about compiling firmware into
> GPL drivers, not distribution.

Here is, again, the full evolution of the current discussion:

Author: Gary Olzeke
Date: 2017-06-22 23:02 +200
To: dng
Subject: [DNG] some ASCII issues

Writes about issues upgrading ASCII from the Jessie CD install;

Author: Hendrik Boom
Date: 2017-06-23 02:44 +200
To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

Wonders if that could be "a side effect of debian/systemd's fusion of /usr
with /?"

Author: Jaromil
Date: 2017-06-23 16:01 +200
To: Hendrik Boom
CC: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

Wrote:
"?!?!?! did they ?!?!?!

how is this madness done, via mount -o bind ????"

Author: Antony Stone
Date: 2017-06-23 16:41 +200
To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

Replied with:

"https://wiki.debian.org/UsrMerge

[...]

https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge/ if
you want to start feeling annoyed as well as surprised."


Author: John Morris
Date: 2017-06-24 01:55 +200
To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

Commented:

"Dunno, that one actually makes a lot of sense. Applying the logic of
Chesterton's Fence here seems sound."

Author: Steve Litt
Date: 2017-06-24 03:08 +200
To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

"I'd love to boot without initramfs, which is a
black box that's hard to look around in."

Author: Didier Kryn
Date: 2017-06-24 11:08 +200
To: Steve Litt, dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

"Anyway I think there's a simple method to live without the
initramfs. Everything which is done from initramfs could be done the
same way from a disk partition, which might make it easier to debug:"


Author: Rick Moen
Date: 2017-06-28 07:57 +200
To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

"Step 1.  Compile a kernel that includes inline all key drivers including
         those needed to find the root filesystem."

Author: Alessandro Selli
Date: 2017-07-03 00:19 +200
To: dng
Subject: Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

"It cannot work if what you need to do is feeding the HD controller some
proprietary firmware that cannot legally be embedded in the GPL driver."

I can, of course, print it and mail it to you, was it necessary.


Bye,


Alessandro