On Tue, 27 Jun 2017, Bruce Perens wrote:
> > On IRC it was mentioned that you will lose access if
> > you redistribute, but you are in no way restricted from redistributing.
> So, what you are saying is that you are permitted to redistribute the
> latest grsecurity patch, but that the company will as a penalty
> disallow you from further being their customer or receiving any
> additional versions of the patch. And this might not be written down,
> but it's their policy.
Yes. We have yet to see it happen though.
> The punitive action is not incidental, it is a direct punishment for
> the taking of an action which the GPL requires to be permitted.
> I don't think a judge would have an problem with seeing this as a
> deliberate contract violation.
There is very little ground to actually make up a court case. Nobody has
been blocked yet, and nobody has publicly (re)distributed the non-public
patches.
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:02 PM, [1]parazyd@???
> <[2]parazyd@???> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2017, Bruce Perens wrote:
> > > You are allowed to redistribute the patch legally, but you
> shall
> > > simply lose access to future patches. One could call it
> blackmail,
> > > another would call it a business move.
> > Do you work for [1][3]grsecurity.net or do you have first
> knowledge of
> > this fact? I think a pretty good case could be made that this
> is an
> > added term under section 6.
> I do have first-hand (informal) information from Brad (spender).
> When
> buying the patches and support from Grsecurity you are signing a
> contract. On IRC it was mentioned that you will lose access if you
> redistribute, but you are in no way restricted from redistributing.
> Very few people have actually seen the contract, and it is only
> given to
> parties that are grsecurity customers.
> GPL2 (Section 6)
> > Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the
> Program),
> > the recipient automatically receives a license from the original
> licensor
> > to copy, distribute or modify the Program subject to these terms
> and
> > conditions. You may not impose any further restrictions on the
> recipients'
> > exercise of the rights granted herein. You are not responsible for
> > enforcing compliance by third parties to this License.
>
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> References
>
> 1. mailto:parazyd@dyne.org
> 2. mailto:parazyd@dyne.org
> 3. http://grsecurity.net/
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