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Autore: Bruce Perens
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To: parazyd@dyne.org
CC: dng
Oggetto: Re: [DNG] grsecurity ripoff by Google, with Linus' approval WAS: I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,
> On IRC it was mentioned that you will lose access if you redistribute,
but you are in no way restricted from redistributing.

So, what you are saying is that you are permitted to redistribute the
latest grsecurity patch, but that the company will as a penalty disallow
you from further being their customer or receiving any additional versions
of the patch. And this might not be written down, but it's their policy.

The punitive action is not incidental, it is a direct punishment for the
taking of an action which the GPL requires to be permitted.

I don't think a judge would have an problem with seeing this as a
deliberate contract violation.

    Thanks


    Bruce


On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:02 PM, parazyd@??? <parazyd@???> wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Jun 2017, Bruce Perens wrote:
>
> >    > You are allowed to redistribute the patch legally, but you shall
> >    > simply lose access to future patches. One could call it blackmail,
> >    > another would call it a business move.

>
> >    Do you work for [1]grsecurity.net or do you have first knowledge of
> >    this fact? I think a pretty good case could be made that this is an
> >    added term under section 6.

>
> I do have first-hand (informal) information from Brad (spender). When
> buying the patches and support from Grsecurity you are signing a
> contract. On IRC it was mentioned that you will lose access if you
> redistribute, but you are in no way restricted from redistributing.
>
> Very few people have actually seen the contract, and it is only given to
> parties that are grsecurity customers.
>
> GPL2 (Section 6)
> > Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the
> Program),
> > the recipient automatically receives a license from the original licensor
> > to copy, distribute or modify the Program subject to these terms and
> > conditions. You may not impose any further restrictions on the
> recipients'
> > exercise of the rights granted herein. You are not responsible for
> > enforcing compliance by third parties to this License.
>
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> ~ parazyd
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