On 16 June 2017 at 17:22, KatolaZ <katolaz@???> wrote:

>
> Which are those packages set for removal? Are packages marked as
> "unnecessary" because where automatically installed by previous
> versions of other packages and are not required any more?
>

I'm guessing you could be right on that. Not entirely sure how I would
check that. I'm not sure if any of the below packages are required for xfce
to operate correctly or not. I could probably just take a punt and remove
them to see what happens, but I'll leave that for next week when I have
more time to spare if it goes pear-shaped.

The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:
alsa-base cpp-4.9 docutils-common docutils-doc espeak-data
firebird2.5-common firebird2.5-common-doc firebird2.5-server-common
firebird3.0-common
firebird3.0-common-doc gdebi-core gnome-icon-theme-symbolic
gstreamer0.10-alsa gstreamer0.10-plugins-base libalgorithm-c3-perl
libamd2.3.1 libarchive-extract-perl
libasprintf0c2 libavcodec56 libavformat56 libavresample2 libavutil54
libb-hooks-endofscope-perl libbasicusageenvironment0 libbind9-90
libboost-system1.55.0
libcamd2.3.1 libccolamd2.8.0 libcholmod2.1.2 libchromaprint0
libclass-c3-perl libclass-c3-xs-perl libclass-method-modifiers-perl
libclass-xsaccessor-perl
libcloog-isl4 libcolamd2.8.0 libcpan-changes-perl libcpan-meta-perl
libdata-optlist-perl libdata-perl-perl libdata-section-perl libdbus-1-dev
libdevel-caller-perl
libdevel-globaldestruction-perl libdevel-lexalias-perl libdiscid0
libdns100 libdvbpsi9 libegl1-mesa-drivers libelfg0 libenca0 libept1.4.12
libespeak1
libexporter-tiny-perl libfbclient2 libfbembed2.5 libfile-slurp-perl
libflite1 libfreerdp-cache1.1 libfreerdp-client1.1 libfreerdp-codec1.1
libfreerdp-common1.1.0
libfreerdp-core1.1 libfreerdp-crypto1.1 libfreerdp-gdi1.1
libfreerdp-locale1.1 libfreerdp-primitives1.1 libfreerdp-rail1.1
libfreerdp-utils1.1 libgegl-0.2-0
libgetopt-long-descriptive-perl libgif4 libglew1.10 libgphoto2-port10
libgroupsock1 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 libgstreamer0.10-0 libgtop2-7
libhunspell-1.3-0
libical1a libice-dev libilmbase6 libimobiledevice4 libimport-into-perl
libintl-perl libintl-xs-perl libio-stringy-perl libisc95 libisccc90
libisccfg90 libisl10
libjasper1 libjim0.75 libjsoncpp0 libkeybinder0 liblinear1 liblircclient0
liblist-moreutils-perl liblivemedia23 libllvm3.5 liblog-message-perl
liblog-message-simple-perl liblouis2 liblwres90 libminizip1
libmodule-build-perl libmodule-implementation-perl
libmodule-load-conditional-perl
libmodule-pluggable-perl libmodule-runtime-perl libmodule-signature-perl
libmoo-perl libmoox-handlesvia-perl libmro-compat-perl
libnamespace-autoclean-perl
libnamespace-clean-perl libntdb1 libopenexr6 libopenjpeg5 libopenraw1
libopenvg1-mesa liborcus-0.8-0 libpackage-constants-perl
libpackage-stash-perl
libpackage-stash-xs-perl libpadwalker-perl libpango1.0-0
libparams-classify-perl libparams-util-perl libparams-validate-perl
libpath-tiny-perl
libperl4-corelibs-perl libplist2 libpod-latex-perl libpod-markdown-perl
libpod-readme-perl libpoppler46 libportaudio2 libpostproc52 libpth20
libpthread-stubs0-dev
libqpdf13 libqt4-dbus libqt4-xml libqtcore4 libqtdbus4 libqtgui4 libre2-3
libregexp-common-perl libreoffice-sdbc-firebird librole-tiny-perl
libschroedinger-1.0-0
libsctp1 libsm-dev libsoftware-license-perl libstrictures-perl
libsub-exporter-perl libsub-exporter-progressive-perl libsub-identify-perl
libsub-install-perl
libswscale3 libterm-ui-perl libtext-soundex-perl libtext-template-perl
libtommath1 libtry-tiny-perl libturbojpeg1 libtype-tiny-perl
libtype-tiny-xs-perl
libumfpack5.6.2 libunicode-utf8-perl libusageenvironment1 libusbmuxd2
libvariable-magic-perl libvncclient0 libvpx1 libvte-2.90-9
libvte-2.90-common libvte-common
libvte9 libwebpmux1 libwebrtc-audio-processing-0 libwinpr-crt0.1
libwinpr-crypto0.1 libwinpr-dsparse0.1 libwinpr-environment0.1
libwinpr-file0.1 libwinpr-handle0.1
libwinpr-heap0.1 libwinpr-input0.1 libwinpr-interlocked0.1
libwinpr-library0.1 libwinpr-path0.1 libwinpr-pool0.1 libwinpr-registry0.1
libwinpr-rpc0.1
libwinpr-sspi0.1 libwinpr-synch0.1 libwinpr-sysinfo0.1 libwinpr-thread0.1
libwinpr-utils0.1 libwps-0.3-3 libx11-dev libx11-doc libx264-142
libxapian22 libxau-dev
libxcb-composite0 libxcb1-dev libxdmcp-dev libxfce4util6 libxfcegui4-4
libxt-dev linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 lksctp-tools pkg-config
policykit-1-gnome
python-cddb python-cffi python-cups python-dbus-dev python-defusedxml
python-docutils python-imaging python-musicbrainz2 python-ndg-httpsclient
python-pexpect
python-pil python-ply python-ptyprocess python-pycparser python-pygments
python-renderpm python-reportlab python-reportlab-accel python-roman
python-smbc
python-soappy python-wstools qdbus qt-at-spi qtchooser qtcore4-l10n
vlc-nox x11proto-core-dev x11proto-input-dev x11proto-kb-dev
xfce-keyboard-shortcuts
xfce4-artwork xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin xfce4-volumed xorg-sgml-doctools
xtrans-dev
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.

The reason is that the development of some of the devuan-forked
> packages has not followed the usual unstable-testing-stable path,
> otherwise we would have probably not had jessie ready before a few
> more years :)
>
> IMHO, you should be able to safely remove tasksel-xfce4 and none of
> your xfce4 packages should be touched. As a matter of fact, you can
> remove tasksel entirely from your system, and none of the other
> packages that it would pull in will be affected. I have *never* had
> tasksel installed since it has been introduced. TBH, I find it to be a
> terribly complicated mess to not much avail, but that's just the
> opinion of a caveman.
>

I had the task-xfce-desktop package installed because I selected that
during the initial installer package/task selection screen.

If you have apt-get update-d, and you don't have any caching system in
> the middle, apt-cache policy is the autoritative source of information
> about which packages are available in the different sections of the
> repos.


Thanks

I've also noticed after upgrade that xfce4-terminal has a broken UI. All
of the menu bar buttons are mashed together without any spacing in between,
and the vertical scrollbar has disappeared. I would post a screenshot
somewhere, but I'm not sure where is the best place to put it for a mailing
list.


-- Tom