>    Hello fellow Devuaners!
>    To begin with, congratulations on the "un-systemd-ed " network-manager! I
>    tried it on my new netbook installation that I have mentioned in a
>    previous mail, replacing wicd-kde. Everything good, except for a minor
>    bug, that has been fixed upstream since then: The plasma-nm shows a
>    question mark, although the connection is ok.
>    And now I would like to mention another topic. It was mentioned about 13
>    hours ago in irc that kde and gnome were removed as options from the
>    installer. No problem with gnome, I don't like it and is too
>    systemd-entangled, but I have an objection for kde. Together with TDE,
>    they are the best (and perhaps only) full-featured desktops that we have.
>    I know there are still bugs (e.g. usb sticks mounted only as root). Are
>    they so complicated, that they can't be fixed? Too much of a hassle? I
>    don't mind that much. Consider that in OpenBSD this is a feature!
>    Nevertheless, I could always perform a minimal istall, and install kde
>    afterwards.
>    Please don't kick kde out of devuan!
>    Regards,
>    Dimitris