On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:06:25 -0400, fsmithred wrote in message
<7e20d658-93f5-dd10-995b-0d14eb76479b@???>:

> On 04/24/2017 03:59 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 14:16:03 -0400, fsmithred wrote in message
> > <fe3b3bbe-73fa-4590-75ea-15e142e82764@???>:
> >
> >> On 04/24/2017 10:39 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 08:43:35 -0400, fsmithred wrote in message
> >>> <1b574913-ccd5-2395-1c8d-2647d7e4061c@???>:
> >>>
> >>>> On 04/24/2017 07:21 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 05:18:32 -0400, fsmithred wrote in message
> >>>>> <b9fe011d-1f20-02db-ed10-8f67bcee3104@???>:
> >>>>
> >>>> <snip>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't know if this would be of any help to you, but I have a
> >>>>>> vdev live iso that I made using Ralph's vdev packages back in
> >>>>>> October. After reading this thread, I decided to install it and
> >>>>>> upgrade to the 4.9rt kernel. It boots normally.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What I can't seem to do is make a bootable iso with the 4.9rt,
> >>>>>> even after upgrading live-boot, et. al. to the ascii versions.
> >>>>>> (There's a problem with the bpo versions of live-boot missing
> >>>>>> some parts in the initrd related to overlayfs and nls_ascii).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you want to try the October live iso, let me know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ..yup, url?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> jessie-vdev2 iso:
> >>>> http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/experimental/
> >>>>
> >>>> Notes:
> >>>> - boots to console, startx to get to openbox
> >>>> - If you want to get rid of the desktop background, it's in the
> >>>> spacefm settings.
> >>>> - usernames:passwords are root:root and user:user
> >>>> - There's a gear icon on the panel that opens a terminal running
> >>>> the... (I forget what it's called) script that lets you switch
> >>>> between udev and vdev. I assume that it still works, but I didn't
> >>>> test it on this install.
> >>>> - I think I have it set to not install recommends.
> >>>> - *systemd* is pinned, so no libsystemd0 or libpam-systemd
> >>>>
> >>>> (these are older than the vdev in the repo)
> >>>> vdevd-2.0.2, libudev_compat_1.2.1, vdev-initramfs_1.2.7
> >>>>
> >>>> fsmithred
> >>>
> >>> ..thanks, DL in progress. :o)
> >>>
> >>
> >> Update: I removed the 4.9rt kernel and replaced it with the regular
> >> 4.9-bpo kernel.
> >
> > ..looks like these are set up the same way as the Sid/Ceres ones, my
> > diff is also 222 lines.
> >
> >> System still boots, and the live iso I made with it
> >> boots.
> >>
> >> http://paste.debian.net/929150/
> >> I ran a diff on the kernel configs, but I don't see anything
> >> obvious. A few months ago, there were problems with the 4.8-bpo
> >> kernel and live-boot. Some overlayfs and nls_ascii were missing
> >> from the initrd. That was fixed in the 2017 version of live-boot.
> >
> > ..one good thing about distractions is they buys me time to have
> > other people find out things for me. ;o)
> >
> > ..mounting it after dd'ing it, I see isolinux and boot/grub, but
> > also boot/grub/efiboot.img and efi/boot/bootx64.efi, and my box
> > didn't like Qubes-R3.2's way to "efi-boot", next boot to grub took
> > an hour.
> >
> > ..your iso boots directly into isolinux or grub without messing up
> > my "efi stuffed bios"?
> >
> >
>
> If you're using uefi instead of legacy bios, it should boot with
> grub, and it shouldn't mess anything up. CAVEAT: There's no
> uniformity in uefi implementations across manufacturers. If you want
> to install it, the safest way is if you have another linux on the
> machine, install this one without a bootloader, and add it to the
> menu of the linux that handles the boot.
>
> Now that I think about it, grub-pc is installed in that image. If you
> want to install the bootloader, the grub-efi debs are in the root
> directory. The installer should find them and ask if you want it to
> install them (in a chroot) for you, which will cause grub to take
> over the boot, or it will provide you with a fully-prepared chroot
> terminal where you could install them yourself with dpkg, or you can
> continue without a bootloader.
>
> See /usr/lib/refractainstaller/uefi_install.readme
> That one is newer than the one in user's home.
>
> Oh, and if you want to do a manual chroot for something, there's a
> script in user's bin that will do the bind mounts for sys proc and
> dev.
>
> fsmithred

..wonderful, thanks a lot. :o)

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