On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 09:14:32AM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:

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> >     Look, today Devuan lives with using mostly Debian packages, a small
> > fraction of which being de-poetterized. 

>
> That's already a good thing, and really should be continued. But the
> corresponding patches should also go to the upstreams.
>

...err...by upstream you mean Debian? Then I am lost. Most of the
systemd-specific stuff in those packages has been added by the Debian
packagers themselves, to abide to the plans of conqering the world
with a Blitzkrieg. People are struggling to get those silly deps out,
and now you would like those patches to go back to Debian? Again, to
what avail?

Try to submit a patch like that by yourself, and see how long does it
take for the "PLONK" sound to he heard loud and clear, from a
distance.

Debian has made her decision. I know it's hard to believe for a
long-time Debianist, but they have effectively no intention of
supporting anything else than systemd. You should try to accept this
as a fact, after 30 months, go through the the appropriate
bereavement, and move on.

KatolaZ

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