On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:49:53 -0400, Renaud wrote in message
<20170413094953.0b06f37f@???>:

> On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:04:57 +0200
> Arnt Karlsen <arnt@???> wrote:
>
> > > > Well, the official policy, insofar as there is one, appears to
> > > > be that Devuan is about choice. Therefore, it should make
> > > > available (1) the choice to do without systemd and (2) the
> > > > choice to use systemd.
> > >
> > > The choice exists already: the user can either use systemd running
> > > Debian, or not use it running Devuan.
> >
> > ..what devuan does not support, is the ability to offer a newbie
> > the option to "try another init system" without having to reinstall
> > everything after finding pain with systemd onboard.
>
> Given that systemd is no longer (if it ever was) an init system, but
> an operating system.

..aye, but debian.org et al are still pushing the "init system"
narrative.

> Which rules out switching to or from systemd without a complete
> reinstall.
>
> Anyroads all this is moot until Devuan becomes a mainstream
> distribution, instead of being the domain of us geeks.

..I disagree we should wait, if we warn the newbies etc now,
they are going to learn the easier way and likely learn to
trust our advice on systemd and the systemd folks.


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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
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