On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 17:11:05 -0400, Steve wrote in message
<20170313171105.296b8613@???>:

> On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:32:58 +0000
> KatolaZ <katolaz@???> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 12:20:42PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 19:10:00 -0400
> > > Hendrik Boom <hendrik@???> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have found two browser-related devuan packages that have surf
> > > > in their names.
> > > >
> > > > surf
> > > > netsurf
> > > >
> > > > Is either of them relted to the surf you are documenting?
> > >
> > > Yes. The Surf I've documented is installed by the surf package.
> > > The more experience I get with Surf, the more I believe that the
> > > package should be installed only as a "hello world" exercise, but
> > > later uninstalled and replaced by a custom configured
> > > make_clean;make;make_install installation. All Suckless Tools
> > > software is configured by modifying the config.h file and then
> > > recompiling, meaning that the user can't modify any behavior the
> > > package bestows.
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would actually suggest to recompile surf using the deb-src in the
> > repos. This is much cleaner, and results in a new .deb package that
> > can be installed and removed safely.
>
> Yeah, that'll work as long as Debian didn't mess with Suckless'
> source, and as long as it compiles to surf-0.7. And tabbed should
> compile to 0.6.

..one thing we should have learned by now, is preparing for the worst,
assume they _will_ mess with watever hurts us the most at the worst
time, and plan ahead to squash any such scheme.

> You mentioned safe removal. Tabbed, Surf and Dmenu all have a "make
> uninstall" option that removes all their executables and shellscripts
> from the directories "make install" put them in. And the beauty of
> these installations is they contain no .so or other libraries, so for
> the most part uninstallation is simply the removal of executables.

..the problem with those old ways, is they don't even try to prevent
name space etc conflicts. Debian etc systemd people will need to work
hard to kill off dpkg and apt, if we keep our own git record of these
handy. Do we?

> So whether you're the kind of person who likes making your own
> packages, or the kind who just wants to get down to business, these
> three Suckless tools are just what the doctor ordered.


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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
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best case, worst case, and just in case.