I left Debian for Funtoo and Devuan. The reason was systemd. Debian paid
lip service to the alternate init systems, but in reality systemd was
slowly but surely becoming required. I left because it was clear they were
going in a different direction than I wanted to follow.

You can include me in your list if you want. But I think for a Debian user
who is currently questioning the need for systemd, knowing his alternatives
is much more useful than knowing that I (some guy they don't know) stopped
using Debian.

-Rob

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 9:37 PM, Steve Litt <slitt@???>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> There's yet another systemd thread on Debian-User, started by a guy who
> wrote an intelligent question about why there's no choice of init at
> install time:
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg00472.html
>
> After a little back and forth, a guy who claims to have used Linux for
> 20 years without knowing there's more than one init system, and because
> of his personal anecdote he thinks there shouldn't be a choice and says
> "Please end this Diskussion and get on with important things."
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg00514.html
>
> A few posts later, a guy basically says "put up or shut up" to the
> proposition that the reason there's so little request for sans-systemd
> in Debian is because those who don't like systemd moved on:
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg00540.html
>
> Can somebody please make a list, that we can put our names on, of
> people who left Debian because of systemd? And put the name Steve Litt
> on it please.
>
> We have our quiet sans-systemd corners, and right now they're
> comfortable, but remember that the Freedesktop/Redhat/SystemdCabal
> consortium has the goal of eliminating systemd as a choice, and they
> still have the power to take our init systems away from us, as a
> practical matter, so we still need to tell the truth to bullshit like
> that on the Debian-User list right now. Obviously there's a technical
> component to software choice, but forget at your peril that there's
> also a political component.
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
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