Hi all,

There's yet another systemd thread on Debian-User, started by a guy who
wrote an intelligent question about why there's no choice of init at
install time:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg00472.html

After a little back and forth, a guy who claims to have used Linux for
20 years without knowing there's more than one init system, and because
of his personal anecdote he thinks there shouldn't be a choice and says
"Please end this Diskussion and get on with important things."

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg00514.html

A few posts later, a guy basically says "put up or shut up" to the
proposition that the reason there's so little request for sans-systemd
in Debian is because those who don't like systemd moved on:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg00540.html

Can somebody please make a list, that we can put our names on, of
people who left Debian because of systemd? And put the name Steve Litt
on it please.

We have our quiet sans-systemd corners, and right now they're
comfortable, but remember that the Freedesktop/Redhat/SystemdCabal
consortium has the goal of eliminating systemd as a choice, and they
still have the power to take our init systems away from us, as a
practical matter, so we still need to tell the truth to bullshit like
that on the Debian-User list right now. Obviously there's a technical
component to software choice, but forget at your peril that there's
also a political component.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt
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