Hi Anto,

On 01/04/2017 04:17 PM, Anto <aryanto@???> wrote:
> On 24/12/16 00:17, fsmithred wrote:
>> >On 12/23/2016 05:42 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>>> >>On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:56:58AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
>>>> >>>I installed jessie-beta on a disk some time ago, and off hand it boots
>>>> >>>and runs just fine. However I didn't migrate it to from my current Debian
>>>> >>>Wheezy because I was waiting for the eudev/vdev/udev issue to be
>>>> >>>resolved, figuring that migrating up from present udev to one of the
>>>> >>>others could well be traumatic. I didn't want to do it on a system
>>>> >>>on which I relied for work.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Two questions, if I may:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Is eudev being actively worked on, and is it likely to be in
>>>> >>>the upcoming non-beta Jessie Devuan?
>>> >>vdev was/is being developed by a Devuan user specifically with Devuan in
>>> >>mind. eudev, as others have already stated, is a Gentoo project. I'm
>>> >>not sure the status of vdev.
>>> >>
>> >It has been packaged, and it works. (i.e. It works for me and a few
>> >others. If more people try it, then it will work for more people.)
>> >
>> >Here are vdev packages made by Ralph Ronnquist:
>> >https://git.devuan.org/ralph.ronnquist/vdev/tree/master/release
>> >
>> >Here are vdev packages made by Aitor:
>> >http://packages.gnuinos.org/pool/main/v/vdev/
>> >
>> >I should add that the two sets of packages are probably not compatible
>> >with each other. Pick one.
>> >
>> >Here's a live-CD iso I made with a sparse devuan install with openbox wm
>> >and... vdev. I used Ralph's deb packages for this build, and I only made
>> >an amd64 iso. It's already isohybrid, so you can dd or cat it to a usb stick.
>> >http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/experimental/jessie-vdev2-20161013_0159.iso
>> >
>> >-fsmithred
> Hello fsmithred and everybody,
>
> As fas as I understood, a proper debian package must have the debian
> packaging files, i.e. the debian directory and its files, so that people
> can compile and test it on any supported platforms. So I don't believe
> that vdev has been properly packaged so far as I cannot find any debian
> packaging files either on
> https://git.devuan.org/unsystemd/vdev/tree/master or
> https://git.devuan.org/ralph.ronnquist/vdev/tree/master.

The packages of vdev are still for testing purposes, so they surelly do
not conform to debian's orthodoxy... [*]

> Or perhaps I am
> out of date on the packaging approach used in Devuan. But I believe
> Devuan still follows the same packaging method as Debian.

The packaging approach is the same in both systems, saving distances.
For example: the "git" source format still is not allowed in debian. But
basically, the followed method is the same in both debian and devuan.

> For me, I will be more confident to install a package that has never
> been packaged before, when I can successfully compile it under my
> environment using dpkg-buildpackage. Especially for device manager
> packages, I have to be very careful as the chances to break my PC is
> quite high. At the first stage of vdev development, I always broke my
> test PC until I decided to stop testing and just wait for a vdev package
> with debian packaging files available.
>
> So is there anywhere I can find the debian packaging files of vdev?

deb http://packages.gnuinos.org/unsystemd jessie main
<deb%20http://packages.gnuinos.org/unsystemd%20jessie%20main>

But use it at your own risk :)

I recommend you to separate the " / " partition from the " / home "
partition, so far as you can always restore the first one, without
affecting to the second one, in the case of an incidence.

> Thanks in advance.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anto

HTH,

Aitor.


[*] rrq has skills for that and more :)