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Autor: Caleb James DeLisle
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Para: System undo crew
Assunto: Re: [unSYSTEM] Riseup
I got word they have been uncharacteristically quiet in the IRC channel and
then when they did start to talk about something, they were specifically asked
about the canary and they "ignored" the question, no response.

I'd have to guess that Trump is making some effort to deal with his detractors
before they become a thing.

Thanks,
Caleb


On 24/11/16 14:49, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
> It's somewhat concerning that they have been a bit quiet about the whole thing
> on twitter, etc. since there is a hackernews discussion about this and it's
> making something of a noise.
>
> On 24/11/16 14:46, Jaromil wrote:
>>
>> hi Mike,
>>
>> On Thu, 24 Nov 2016, Mike Gogulski wrote:
>>
>>> via fb
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure the news is correct, best verify further. asked around
>> and the canary is not really often updated anyway, see:
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20160201074410/https://help.riseup.net/en/canary
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20160225021349/https://help.riseup.net/en/canary
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20160423135442/https://help.riseup.net/en/canary
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20161124052224/https://riseup.net/en/canary
>>
>> https://riseup.net/en/canary
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20160202175659/https://help.riseup.net/en
>>
>>> 4) Remember that while some providers may encrypt emails once
>>> received on their server, all email is basically sent unencrypted
>>> between servers. Every email is a postcard, readable by nearly
>>> everyone. Unless you and the person you're corresponding with use
>>> PGP. So use PGP. Links to tutorials in the comments.
>>
>> while I agree everyone should use PGP (and those who already do should
>> have a look at opmsg!) I must say this information is not correct, as
>> on SMTP servers we have a layer of TLS encryption via the ESMTP
>> protocol which is basically implemented on all major servers and for
>> sure implemented by riseup, resist.ca, aut/inv etc. so email does not
>> travel in clear if one uses TLS to connect to the SMTP and then the
>> SMTP between themselves use ESMTP which is very very often the case.
>>
>> nevertheless, use PGP! because emails stored in clear on an IMAP or
>> POP server are pretty vulnerable to tapping.
>>
>> ciao
>>
>>
>>
>>
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