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Autor: Caleb James DeLisle
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Para: System undo crew
Assunto: Re: [unSYSTEM] Election and riots


On 10/11/16 16:31, voize wrote:
> Caleb,
>
>> I expected a wave of hate-crime after the election, anti-trump riots
>> caught me off guard. Now I see this is following the typical strong-man
>> pattern.
>>
>> People out in the streets rioting and burning things, the trump voters
>> become more and more convinced that he is the only person who can keep
>> the country together. We can expect Guliani or Arpaio being nominated
>> and saying "this lawless will stop!"...
>
> what do you mean by strong-man pattern?



He's following the same path as typical "strong man" presidents like
Erdogan or Hussain... basically a politician who rules with an iron fist
but is honestly re-elected because the quiet majority sees him as the only
way to keep the violent political minority from turning the country to
chaos.


>
> The protests besides being #fucktrump is also #whitewon. As if Trump
> voters needed more fuel! Were they so surprised that half the country
> actually turned out the be unhappier and angrier than they are? 'Lets go
> retake that mantle!' - The Revolutionary known as Katy Perry
>
> Yes, when the new American Revolution comes along, it will be lead by
> pop singers.
>
> I'm kind of worried that the 'race war' will take front row instead of
> the neoliberal vs republicans



Wouldn't be surprising, people behave like this when under pressure.


>
>> I'm somehow excited to see the power struggle which ensues as it seems
>> quite clear that Trump is not a friend of The Washington People...
>> He got only 4% of the vote in DC. Nassim Taleb said after the election
>> that Goldman Sachs and the Saudis are the big losers so this could be
>> significant.
>
> I didnt know about the Nassim Taleb bit and Goldman Sachs bit! But I'd
> imagine it is thus. I would imagie Trump doesnt need to take cash from
> anyone, he's going to do business as usual.



Figure if Goldman collapses, so does the Euro. In negotiation that's a
Trump card (heh) and he'll probably use it to get immunity from judges
mettling with his presidency...


Exciting times...
Caleb


>
>> I expect the big tension will be between Trump and the judiciary.
>>
>> Laws are broken all of the time in the executive branch but it's easy
>> for the judiciary to look the other way when the violations are coming
>> from an educated, socially tollerant thoughtful person like Obama or
>> Clinton. Seen as a brute, we can expect the judiciary to try to hold
>> Trump to the Constitution much more strictly.
>>
>> But the Constitution is a double-edged sword. Trump speaks about
>> closure of the Department of Education and the EPA which we must recall
>> are not specifically prescribed by the Constitution and so the 10th
>> ammendment puts them in legally questionable territory... Not to
>> mention the Federal Reserve.
>>
>> Trump is not good at much but he is good at scorched earth negotiation.
>> I expect there will be some hints of "maybe we will audit the FED"
>> which will be used as bargaining chips to trade for a more complacent
>> judiciary.
>>
>> Trump's major challenge will be to build a new Washington Consensus and
>> critically to ensure that everyone involved will have investment in
>> this consensus so they cannot turn on him after agreements have been
>> made.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Caleb
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/11/16 06:37, voize wrote:
>>> Okay, what the fuck kids? There are protests in major US cities right
>>> now with the hashtag #notmypresident. Liberals are all over the streets
>>> when theyre precious democratic voting system actually worked. its not
>>> the middle east... lol. sorry. People in the middle east revolt because
>>> they have a 1 party system with 1 ruler for decades. What the fuck are
>>> these people protesting? that more than half of their countrymen had an
>>> opportunity to vote? I want to hear their demands. Do they want a
>>> United Cities of America?
>>>
>>> There's also the LGBT and black communities rolling with the antiwhite
>>> platform (even though all candidates were white).
>>>
>>> AND... What bothers me the most: Im looking at my normal anarchist
>>> media (stimulator.tv, /r/anarchism in particular) and theyre going with
>>> fascist anti-Trump and lets do some insurrection now. I feel like these
>>> anarchists are totally missing an opportunity to fuck with the system by
>>> not celebrating Trump's ascension into the whitehouse. As a result, I
>>> feel more like a lone anarchist than ever; distanced from the apt-get
>>> install anarchism ive always been friends with. I feel like I've come
>>> full-circle in politics, and I'm now closer to my home conservative
>>> state than ever. I'm actually proud that they've upset this city culture
>>> in light of the extremely biased media.
>>>
>>> I really give thanks to this mailing list for what it is. Ive met some
>>> of you in person at bitcoin conferences or wherever and and youve become
>>> my biggest hope for having friends with whom i really feel at home.
>>> Unsystem is what defines me and is my life project.
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear what everyone else thinks.
>>>
>>>
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