Hi Adam,

On 24/10/16 14:00, Adam Borowski <kilobyte@???> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 05:02:25PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
>> >On 10/21/2016 02:00 PM, Robert Storey<robert.storey@???> wrote:
>>> > >Sorry, you're right, I misread your comment. Just goes to show why I could
>>> > >benefit from Clearlooks. Anyway, sorry to hear that gtk3 is messing things
>>> > >up for developers, though I shouldn't be surprised. I think I've worked it
>>> > >out to a formula: Systemd+gtk3=Linux_Windows
>> >Please, don't confuse Gtk3 with Gnome... It's like comparing Qt with Kde:)
> Alas, gtk3 causes gnomeization of everything it touches. Try the file open
> dialog, or even worse, the font selection dialog. The worst part, CSD, is not
> mandatory_yet_ but has already found its way to a number of programs that
> are hawked as "desktop-agnostic". Thus, we need to change task-desktop to
> use atril instead of evince, eom instead of eog, etc.
>
>
> Meow!

This is not a Gtk3 issue. You are talking about applications developed
*for* Gnome. Examples like evince or file-roller...

I have no problem running any of the following examples:

https://developer.gnome.org/gtkmm-tutorial/stable/index-info.html.en

Neither in openbox, lxde, xfce... And none of them causes the known
weird double shadow:

https://github.com/chjj/compton/issues/189

So, it's not a Gtk3 problem.

But one thing is true: there are not many good gtk3-themes at the moment
[*].

On the other hand, in appearance, Qt integrates very well in Gtk, but
the reverse is not true. Neither with Gtk2, neither with Gtk3 :)

**Cheers,

Aitor.

[*] Vertex is one of them.