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Auteur: Police Terror
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Onderwerp: Re: [Libbitcoin] Encrypting a wallet with AES
William, here is the updated example:

https://github.com/RojavaCrypto/encdec-sodium/blob/master/test.py

Does that look fine to you? Thanks.

Police Terror:
> OK, thank you!
>
> William Swanson:
>> Oh, good point. I didn't realize that the salt would be redundant with
>> the extended nonce. In that case, you can get away with the following
>> simplified plan:
>>
>> * Generate 192 bits of random data (24 bytes)
>> * Use the first 128 bits (16 bytes) as the salt for Argon2.
>> * Use the next 64 bits (8 bytes) as the nonce for ChaCha20-Poly1305
>> * Store both values in plaintext alongside the encrypted data
>>
>> This scheme should give you all the security you need.
>>
>> For reference, here is the semi-overkill idea I originally had:
>>
>> * Generate 320 bits of random data (40 bytes)
>> * Use the first 128 bits (16 bytes) for the password salt
>> * Mix the next 128 bits (16 bytes) with the derived key using
>> crypto_core_hchacha20
>> * Use the last 64 bits (8 bytes) for the nonce
>> * Store all three values in plaintext alongside the encrypted data
>>
>> Step 3 isn't really needed, since step 2 already provides all the
>> needed entropy.
>>
>> -William
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Police Terror <PoliceTerror@???> wrote:
>>> So the ChaCha20-Poly1305 nonce is 12 bytes, and crypto_pwhash wants a
>>> salt of 16 bytes.
>>>
>>> What you're saying I should do is generate 24 bytes of random data
>>> everytime I want to encrypt.
>>>
>>> Then use the first 8 bytes (64 bits) as the nonce for ChaCha20-Poly1305
>>> encryption, and mix the remaining 16 bytes with the key using the
>>> function: crypto_core_hchacha20()
>>>
>>> Where should I get the 16 bytes for the salt from, and what should I do
>>> with this? Simply store the <nonce, salt> alongside the encrypted data?
>>>
>>> Should I bother with the incrementing nonce, or just generate a new
>>> random nonce and salt everytime I want to re-encrypt the wallet?
>>>
>>> William Swanson:
>>>> For password hashing, you are using the wrong function. You want
>>>> `crypto_pwhash`, not `crytpo_pwhash_str`. The `crytpo_pwhash_str` will
>>>> return a different result every time you call it, since it uses a
>>>> random-number generator to automatically handle salting. The
>>>> `crypto_pwhash` function is designed for key generation, and allows
>>>> you to specify the length explicitly. You also need to provide your
>>>> own salt for this function. Whatever salt you pick (a random number)
>>>> should be stored in plaintext alongside the encrypted data. That way,
>>>> when the user re-enters their password to decrypt the data, you can
>>>> supply the same salt again to derive the same key.
>>>>
>>>> For the nonce, `randombytes_buf` could work, but I don't recommend
>>>> using it directly. The nonces used in ChaCha20-Poly1305 are too short
>>>> for randomness to be safe. There is a scary-high probability that the
>>>> same random number will appear twice, revealing the secret key. The
>>>> algorithm is *really* designed to be used with session keys and a
>>>> message counter, as it would be in SSL. It's a bad fit for storing
>>>> data on disk, but there is a workaround:
>>>> https://download.libsodium.org/doc/key_derivation/#nonce-extension
>>>>
>>>> The basic strategy is to generate a 192-bit random number, then use
>>>> the first 64 bits as the nonce, and mix the other 128 bits with the
>>>> key. A 192-bit nonce is just long enough to be "safe" against birthday
>>>> attacks, so this approach will give you the security you need. The
>>>> 192-bit nonce should be stored on-disk in plaintext, yes.
>>>>
>>>> -William
>>>>
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