On 08/11/2016 11:48 AM, richard lucassen wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:05:49 -0400
> Steve Litt <slitt@???> wrote:
>
>>> And has someone ever played with eudev? Slackware has moved to
>>> eudev. Maybe it's better to try that instead of vdev?
>>
>> Before trading in vdev for eudev, consider this question: What if Red
>> Hat bought their way into maintainership of eudev, poetterized it, and
>> emptied out previous versions on Git. That's what they did with
>> dracut.
>
> If ever this would happen there will immediately be a fork called fudev.
>
> And what if RH bought their way into maintainership of the kernel?
>
>> Are Gentoo and Slackware good stewards for eudev? Slackware has
>> consistently avoided a commitment never to go with systemd, and Gentoo
>> (as opposed to Funtoo) is very proud of their init agnostic stance,
>> which of course they'll kick to the curb at the slightest pressure
>> from Redhat.
>
> I have no idea. But instead of bashing systemd, Poettering and RedHat
> c.s., it would be more effective for people here to spend some time in
> testing vdev, wouldn't it? (this is not meant to be Steve bashing btw)
>
>> I love the idea of experimenting with eudev: It's free software, maybe
>> we can improve vdev with what we learn from it. But for reasons stated
>> in my previous two paragraphs, I think moving our target from vdev to
>> eudev would be a bad idea.
>
> So, please join the Group Of Three who are testing vdev. Without vdev
> or any other standalone udev version Devuan is stillborn. This whole
> vdev beast is much more complicated than a single daemon. We need
> testing, input, otherwise we'll go down the drain. It is as simple as
> that.
>
> R.
>


Sorry, I missed two day, and now I've fallen way behind you guys. All I've
done so far was install and test Aitor's first deb package, and I already
reported on that. One thing I forgot to mention is that, even though it
doesn't fully boot (I get error messages about missint ttys) I am able to
connect to it through ssh.

Anyway, I'm going to start with Jude's directions and see if I can catch
up. Meanwhile, I did do something useful, and I can answer your question
about eudev - yeah, I tried it, and it seems to work (with minimal
testing). I used the debs that David Hare made about a year ago.

And let me add that I agree with Steve that we should keep working on vdev.

add this line to your sources:
deb http://exegnulinux.net/nosystemd/ experimental main

Install this key
http://exegnulinux.net/nosystemd/pool/main/e/exegnu-archive-keyring/exegnu-archive-keyring_0.0.1_all.deb

apt-get update
apt-get install eudev (seems to install the libraries)
apt-get -t nosystemd install udev (honest)

It will rebuild the initrd.

Reboot.

Note: I'm testing on a live usb with persistence, so I can easily delete
my changes and start over.

Note2: I'm still laughing about fudev.

-fsr