So should we respond by saying that "We don't use or encourage the use
of systemd-shim in Devuan. Our approach is to rebuild the packages
which in debian depend on systemd, without that dependency instead."

Regards,
    Daniel.

On 04/08/16 09:12, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
>
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd
> Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 09:12:02 +0000
> Resent-From: Martin Pitt <mpitt@???>
> Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@???
> Resent-CC: debian-devel@???, wnpp@???
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 11:09:32 +0200
> From: Martin Pitt <mpitt@???>
> Reply-To: Martin Pitt <mpitt@???>, 832508@???
> To: Debian BTS Submit <submit@???>
> CC: Steve Langasek <vorlon@???>, Allison Ryan Lortie <desrt@???>
>
> Package: wnpp
>
> Neither Steve nor I still have any interest in maintaining
> systemd-shim. Debian's default init system is systemd, Ubuntu supports
> nothing else any more (and does not even have systemd-shim any more),
> upstart is gone from both Debian and Ubuntu, so the only use case for
> it right now is running Debian with SysVinit (in particular, on
> non-Linux flavors).
>
> So this should be picked up by someone who is interested in keeping SysV
> init
> support for desktops (i. e. which need logind or timedatectl) alive in
> Debian.
> There are currently no release-critical bugs and the package is working
> reasonably well for main use cases, but there *are* a few bugs worth looking
> into.
>
> The upstream branch is currently at
> <https://github.com/desrt/systemd-shim/>.
> Allison isn't interested any more in this either, so I suggest that
> the upstream repo gets mothballed and systemd-shim just becomes a
> Debian-native package (I'm not aware of any other distro using it
> anyway).
>
> Note that systemd-shim currently uses cgmanager, which by itself is
> obsolete [1].
>
> Package description:
>

>   Description: shim for systemd
>    This package emulates the systemd function that are required to run
>    the systemd helpers without using the init service

>
>
> Martin
>
> [1] https://s3hh.wordpress.com/2016/06/18/whither-cgmanager/
>


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