On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:25:39 +0200, Klaus wrote in message
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>
> Michael Prokop schrieb am 19.07.2016 um 23:22:
> > * Klaus Fuerstberger [Mon Jul 18, 2016 at 09:41:01AM +0200]:
> >
> >> as I could not post a blog comment at
> >> http://blog.grml.org/archives/394-Is-Grml-still-alive.html I want
> >> to leave a comment to this article here.
> >
> >> Many thanks for grml all over the years. Please keep on providing
> >> new releases without systemd packages. There is no need for this
> >> bloated piece of software for a text based distribution for system
> >> admins. Maybe you can base grml on devuan, a systemd-free,
> >> debian-based distribution in the future? https://devuan.org/ I am
> >> sure that you will get help there if there are any questions.
> >
> > JFTR, we definitely plan to ship Grml *with* systemd, because that
> > is the way to go for us and also gives people remastering Grml even
> > more flexibility WRT service startups, independent from our default
> > configuration.
>
> You made Grml for people to be flexible in remastering it? I think
> Grml was, and is complete as it is. If I want to add a daemon at
> startup I need no systemd to successful remastering Grml. But of
> course it is your decision.
>
> > If you're interested in a Grml flavor *without* systemd you're
> > invited to work on that, you might be also interested in picking up
> > file-rc as upstream respectively package maintainer (file-rc being
> > the init system we relied on so far and where no maintainer seems to
> > be present anymore, esp. once both Alex and me will orphan it).
>
> Thanks for the invitation to maintain Grml with sysvinit. But I will
> not have the time to maintain such a big change alone. But as grml is
> also listed in
> http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distributions
> I send a copy of this post to the devuan mailing list. Maybe there
> will be someone who is using Grml and interested to keep this systemd
> free.

..looks like Grml is a loss: http://bts.grml.org/grml/issue1568
Pity. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=alternatives+to+udev&ia=web

..systemd, udev etc pötterication has no more tech etc merit than e.g.
Erdogan's ban on Turk academics going on e.g. vacation abroad.

--
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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
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best case, worst case, and just in case.