Quoting Hendrik Boom (hendrik@???):

> Whether he uses Devuan in a virtual machine is not directly relevant
> to me. I appreciate that when he's tinkering with the innards of a
> distro it may be vastly convenient to do it in a virtual machine
> rather than bare metal, expecially if things go wrong.

I talk to Steve in other contexts, and he is overwhelmingly a Void Linux
user. He doesn't really use Devuan in any significant sense at all.
Thus my point. But it's just an observation in passing -- that the
impassioned rhetoric was particularly funny in that light.


> That said, I find it immensely convenient that someone else is
> providing me with a systemd-free distro that's a natural
> continuation of the Debian I've been using for years.


> It's a lot easier not to have to do the pinning and monitoring myself.

In case the point was somehow missed despite repeating it a number of
times, 'do it yourself' is limited. What would scale better is
something similar to what the Siduction and Aptosid Debian-variant
communities do (in their cases, imposing a policy on Sid =
Debian-unstable).

I can thus use Siduction's or Aptosid's policy-applied fixes to Sid
without 'doing the pinning and monitoring myself', if I wish to have a
stablised desktop variant of Debian-unstable.

A user of Siduction or Aptosid might say 'I find it immensely convenient
that someone else os providing me with a stablised cutting-edge Debian
desktop system that's a natural continuation of the Debian Sid I've been
using for years.'

And that would be not a fork, you understand. And that would be 'for
people like you, who like something that just works, and is infinitely
configurable'.

Nothing wrong with forks, of course.


> I do wish you two would stop arguing. You seem to agree on all
> substantive issues;

Except Steve is all upset over my attacking Devuan Project, which I did
not do. (Which set all of this waste of time off.) And he keeps
posting logical fallacies asserting various things including the alleged
necessity of distro forking because he likes Devuan, which of course
doesn't follow at all.

I have nothing I need to add, though.