Thomas, lets make it personal, since you seem to like that, as you
don't stop playing with singular or plural subject in what seems a
cheap manipulative maneuver to separate our team on issue we have
debated internally.

In our past conversation and besides the subject of conversation:

you told me me what I SHOULD do and SHOULD have done 2 years ago

(emphasis added conforming to RFC language standards)

you are also trying to convince us that Devuan is not a fork.

And you are saying our idea in your opinion is "*very* bad".

ACK.

As far as my experience goes, your approach to the Debian OpenRC
package is regarded by many as a complete failure. Look it up by
yourself. This is probably why it was not even an option for Debian.

So well, lets be adults and stop wasting each other good mood.
We absolutely don't need to further this conversation.

and you know why? because we forked!!!


Now I wish you a good relaxing weekend
and recommend forgetting this private conversation.


ciao




On Sat, 16 Jul 2016, Thomas Goirand wrote:

> On 07/15/2016 06:32 PM, Jaromil wrote:
> > dear Thomas, thanks for the introduction
> >
> > however I also don't take you seriously right now so please lets
> > decide if you want to make an effort and we listen at each other or
> > not. HEre some facts
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> >> Because so far, we've received zero contribution from Devuan people to
> >> OpenRC, and because I've seen no clear plan regarding the init system,
> >> apart from the declared hate of systemd, I can't take you guys
> >> seriously. This should have happen 2 years ago !!!
> >
> > no. Devuan Jessie has the mission to maintain *status quo*
> >
> > we are contemplating an upgrade, perhaps to OpenRC, for ascii (testing)
> >
> > we have studied your package for Debian and decided to rewrite it.
>
> Whois is "we"? I thought only parazyd worked on this.
>
> I'm very much bothered by the wording here. Specifically, the word
> "decided". As in, the decision is taken, and you can't / don't want to
> go back or even discuss it further with me.
>
> There are many reasons why using a different folder than /etc/init.d is
> a bad idea. I can expose them in this thread, but since you've already
> "decided", is it useful? Are you even interested to hear about the plans
> I originally had for OpenRC in Debian?
>
> > so please if you keep this tone of debate consider we do not need any
> > further interaction.
>
> I wouldn't mind interaction with devuan people about OpenRC, but I'd
> prefer if it wasn't with you, since you seem to take my words.
>
> > we have good
> > contact with maintainers in Gentoo who so far seem to be much more
> > reasonable that Debian (sic!) so please do a favor to your
> > distribution now and behave.
>
> Gosh... At this point, seeing what you just wrote, I'd prefer to
> interact with someone else in Devuan. And anyway, as I wrote, it's best
> to discuss with heroxbd <heroxbd@???> who's more active in
> Debian+OpenRC these days.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas Goirand (zigo)
>

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