Are you serious network isn't started before user login? This is... You
can't be serious. Link please?

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Simon Hobson <linux@???>
wrote:

> Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:
>
> >> Hi, over on the Samba mailing list, somebody asked what
> '--with-systemd' was
> >> for. It has now degenerated into a discussion on how to get systemd to
> start
> >> the 'samba' deamon,
>
> There's also been a short thread on the MythTV mailing list about how to
> get the MythTV Frontend to only start after there's a working network. It
> started with a user reporting that after upgrading his MythBuntu install
> the Frontend would sometimes start properly and sometimes start into the
> setup screen (which is what it does if it can't find the backend) - with no
> apparent pattern as to when it does or doesn't work.
> Of course, the upgrade put SystemD on the machine.
>
> The fun part ? For some reason that must have made sense to someone,
> networking is only started when the user logs into the desktop. WTF ? So
> the suggested fix is to disable the network manager and manually configure
> the network via /etc/network/interfaces.
>
>
> > said by a Samba developer , this is priceless
> >
> > """
> > You have your opinion and I have mine and my opinion (for what it is
> > worth) is that systemd is something that is looking for a problem that
> > doesn't really exist and then fixing the problem in a totally insane
> > way. If systemd was just another init system and was easy to change then
> > I wouldn't mind, but it keeps gobbling up things that have nothing to do
> > with an init system and is becoming extremely hard to remove.
> >
> > As far as I am concerned, this ends this conversation, you have my
> > opinion and nothing will change it, so don't bother trying.
> > """
>
> Yes, a brilliant response
>
> > besides, people at Samba are very good and well seasoned coders. They
> > haven't only managed to reverse-engineer a closed protocol and make an
> > open source daemon which is massively used and works across all major
> > operating systems. Some of them are also responsible for developing
> > rsync, which is... well before it existed the world was different.
> >
> > I have massive respect for them and I'm not surprised someone among
> > them has such an opinion of systemd.
>
> +1
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