Jaromil <jaromil@???> wrote:

>> Hi, over on the Samba mailing list, somebody asked what '--with-systemd' was
>> for. It has now degenerated into a discussion on how to get systemd to start
>> the 'samba' deamon,

There's also been a short thread on the MythTV mailing list about how to get the MythTV Frontend to only start after there's a working network. It started with a user reporting that after upgrading his MythBuntu install the Frontend would sometimes start properly and sometimes start into the setup screen (which is what it does if it can't find the backend) - with no apparent pattern as to when it does or doesn't work.
Of course, the upgrade put SystemD on the machine.

The fun part ? For some reason that must have made sense to someone, networking is only started when the user logs into the desktop. WTF ? So the suggested fix is to disable the network manager and manually configure the network via /etc/network/interfaces.


> said by a Samba developer , this is priceless
>
> """
> You have your opinion and I have mine and my opinion (for what it is
> worth) is that systemd is something that is looking for a problem that
> doesn't really exist and then fixing the problem in a totally insane
> way. If systemd was just another init system and was easy to change then
> I wouldn't mind, but it keeps gobbling up things that have nothing to do
> with an init system and is becoming extremely hard to remove.
>
> As far as I am concerned, this ends this conversation, you have my
> opinion and nothing will change it, so don't bother trying.
> """

Yes, a brilliant response

> besides, people at Samba are very good and well seasoned coders. They
> haven't only managed to reverse-engineer a closed protocol and make an
> open source daemon which is massively used and works across all major
> operating systems. Some of them are also responsible for developing
> rsync, which is... well before it existed the world was different.
>
> I have massive respect for them and I'm not surprised someone among
> them has such an opinion of systemd.

+1