dear Rick,

yes I recall your help facing that meshuggah guy aggressing me and the
whole drama and the wikipedia cancelation and all that at the
beginning of Devuan. and I really appreciated your words of
encouragement, advice and experience :^)

Now I must admit having commented on the thread without even reading
the page. But on the pinning plan solidity we've done our homework
and together with Nextime at the very beginning of this adventure and
with the help of other VUAs we understood we cannot rely on the long
term on this solution.

I have no time now to recall all the analysis :^( plus for other
reasons I'm typing approx 2000 words per day and its becoming sort of
taxing on my hands. But you did well following your own path and I
personally applaud all efforts going into the direction of liberating
us from all the systemd nonsense that has been going down in the past
years.

so my proposal, since we have two approaches and a gentlemen
disagreement which can only be proven in the future, is that we wait
until August, give me time to look better into your documentation,
with the intention to take up your bet. Then we can agree on a
reformulation. Approximately, it should be about running a production
system with pinning, updating it through the life of Jessie and see if
it holds the few services we agree it should run. For something like
that, I am ready to place 1 BTC starting from 1:1 odds, that the
system will not resist the updates and break (aka want to install
systemd) before Debian 9. However lets nail down the details later if
you want, this can be a funny bet :^)


ciao