Im not suggesting the situation was an easy one to resolve, but the
precedent the police set by using a bomb against a civilian is a disturbing
one.
On Jul 12, 2016 10:26 AM, "Pablo" <pablovidal85@???> wrote:

> I actually think they used an explosive due the possibility the man (a
> very well trained ex-military) could have been carrying a bomb with a dead
> man's switch.
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Penny Gaff <pennygaffgallery@???>
> wrote:
>
>> They had a robot that could have been equipped with a non lethal
>> explosive to incapacitate him.
>> On Jul 12, 2016 10:01 AM, "Pablo" <pablovidal85@???> wrote:
>>
>>> Would you go in without the certainty the guy can't shot you dead as
>>> soon as you step into the area under his control? I won't. The police is
>>> just another military force, they are usually nicer and don't carry heavy
>>> guns because they don't need to, screw with them for long enough and that
>>> fact changes quickly, like it happened not long ago
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan#Casualties and countless many
>>> other times in the past.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Penny Gaff <pennygaffgallery@???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Non lethal bomb to incapacitate him,then take him into custody. Anyway
>>>> since when did the police force have a bomb at their disposal? Thats what I
>>>> cant comprehend. By definition US police are a paramilitary force
>>>> On Jul 12, 2016 9:41 AM, "Pablo" <pablovidal85@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I guess they didn't had or could think of a better way to reduce a
>>>>> heavy armed man who is not interested into negotiating.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Penny Gaff <
>>>>> pennygaffgallery@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Blowing people up without a trial is "what happens anywhere you go
>>>>>> where they have rule of law." ?????
>>>>>> On Jul 12, 2016 3:58 AM, "Pablo" <pablovidal85@???> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think is naive to think there's a single cause that can explain
>>>>>>> the behaviour of all the characters involved in these and past related
>>>>>>> events. Understanding these complex social dynamics is really challenging,
>>>>>>> I've read very convincing stories coming from both opposing sides.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Matthew Holt <
>>>>>>> matthewholt3@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will add,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I personally don't just believe that it is institutional racism
>>>>>>>> completing the whole number of shootings of innocent black people in the
>>>>>>>> US. And that at least some of the police shootings of innocent people is
>>>>>>>> down to the heightened security measures in place from the current lone
>>>>>>>> wolf terrorism threat in the US. And combined with the fact that easy
>>>>>>>> access to firearms is so prevalent in the US.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jobs like being a police officer do attract racist people. And
>>>>>>>> there is institutional racism in a lot of US police forces I will add.
>>>>>>>> Those snipers who shot the police officers at the recent demonstration
>>>>>>>> against the latest shooting. Were not just black peoples rights activists,
>>>>>>>> but armageddon end of the world nutters.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12 July 2016 at 09:47, Amir <amir@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Slain Dallas police officer Lorne Ahrens was a proud, open white
>>>>>>>>> supremacist:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://melanoidnation.org/was-one-of-the-slain-dallas-police-officers-a-white-nationalist/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unarmed man killed by Arizona cop cried, begged for life:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/unarmed-man-killed-arizona-cried-begged-life-article-1.2582759
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you defend these actions then you are a trash person. Look at
>>>>>>>>> PrisonPlanet on YouTube. He calls himself a libertarian and posts
>>>>>>>>> videos
>>>>>>>>> about cops, but when it's black people he now takes the side of the
>>>>>>>>> police. Racist trash.
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