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Autor: Pablo
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Para: System undo crew
Assunto: Re: [unSYSTEM] Anonymous - Official announcement for the worldwide Humanity Party
I think your description of anarcho-pacifism is a bit unfair, civil
disobedience when used properly is a much more useful approach than
lobbying and requires no money, no hierarchy and can't be stopped through
the powers that be. This said I do for example think democratic assemblies
are useful some times, but never at the scale of a nation-state or under
the actual democratic systems (to be more specific, only small assemblies
of say around 300 people, with a very clear purpose and making use of
direct democracy).

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:54 AM, psy <epsylon@???> wrote:

> Well, I think that you are talking about different ideas than Amir,
> Jaromil,...
>
> >Your delusion is: "If an Anarchist was a King, everything would be
> >better".
>
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0HtWSlFCAQ
>
> That video is nice for teens and people starting to discover anarchism.
>
> Basically it is about try to don't get engage to the power or
> participate and try to convince others to follow that doctrine. This is
> called anarcho-pacifism. And is a really nice theory but cannot be apply
> to real practice world. It is simple, because is based on that all
> population has a reasonable mind and can choose with similar criterion
> than others which nowadays is a fallacy. So it sounds good, but hasn't
> so much sense...
>
> We can talk about other anarcho-tactics. And some include politics as a
> tool, not as an end to reach. That's because individuals cannot fight
> alone against society problems and anarchism is general a very pragmatic
> knowledge. To give external support for some political parties is a
> need. Not a mod to be chosen..
>
> Take care also with individualism (ego) when you talk about that you are
> the only political subject of your life. Some liberalism theories
> approve that way. We should have some red lines between individuals and
> communities. And then should be really clear.
>
> Imagine that we go for your theory. Do you go to convince to violent
> people to stop being violent?. Are they gonna stop war because we talk
> with them?. We hope than yes. But probably this will not happen never.
>
> So we need to take down first a system of violence. And for that we have
> different ways. By using violence or by using politics. Occam style can
> solve it.
>
> Depending about your choice, we can talk more about "anarchism".
>
>
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