Auteur: Didier Kryn Datum: Aan: dng Onderwerp: Re: [DNG] samba-libs package in Debian now depends on libsystemd0
Le 27/06/2016 18:41, Steve Litt a écrit : > Take a time machine back back to September 2014. Debian had kangaroo
> court approved the switch to systemd and only systemd, unless a few
> maintainers wanted to do us "greybeards" a "favor" and keep
> maintaining sysvinit. All the Debian descendants, including Ubuntu, were
> going along. All of a sudden it was very hard or impossible
> *work-worthy* non-systemd distro. Lennart was busy gloating about the
> takeover, and the systemd fanboiz were feeling the juice enough to
> almost chant "na na na na na" to advocates of init choice. A group
> calling themselves the Veteran Unix Administrators threw up a web page
> threatening a fork if Debian didn't walk back their decision, but
> almost everybody thought this was an empty bluff. The various BSD
> versions were discussing putting a systemd like thing in*their*
> software. Things looked bleak: It looked like Redhat would win quickly,
> mop up, and all work-worthy Open Source operating systems would be
> systemd.
>
> Back around that time, I discovered that my plan B wouldn't work.
> OpenBSD, which in other ways is one of the finest OSs I've ever worked
> with, had no support for hardware assisted virtual machines, meaning
> that any program not available through OpenBSD wouldn't be available at
> all. It looked like Redhat had won: I began seriously contemplating
> switching to a Mac, and those of you who really know me know how much
> that hurt: I have no use for the entire Apple culture.
>
> Put in the context of the preceding two paragraphs, the fact that Samba
> has --without-systemd in June of 2016 is nothing short of a miracle,
> and nothing short of a repudiation of Redhat's quick victory plans.
>
> Of course, if you look at it from today's perspective, it's not
> miraculous, because you know that the Veteran Unix Administrators went
> on to back up their supposed bluff with Devuan, stealing a heck of a
> lot of Debian's mental assets in the process. You know that some
> Manjaro people came out with Manjaro-OpenRC. You know that Gentoo,
> Funtoo, Alpine, Void, and I hear Anti-X, as well as several others,
> stayed put and didn't go to systemd.
>
> But anybody in late 2014, who saw Samba's 2016 --without-systemd in a
> crystal ball, would have jumped for joy.
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